Most recent update: 13-Jul-2001 What's here? • Strike News • Websites • Russia Newswire • Email lists • KZoT Debate • Organizations • Names in news • People who post • Landmark Events • A.B Razlatzky • anti-slander • Theory debate • The p-d-focus list • Want to help? • About this site • Moons of Jupiter • Rainbow Colors The Workers Movement in Russia Your microportal to the workers' movement and the left in Russia This web site is dedicated to principled unity and principled criticism between supporters of the workers' movement in Russia. We therefore aim to guide serious activists to useful information about email lists, web pages, organizations, people, events and the political controversies that originate in the clash of class interests in Russia.  • Strike News • News about current strikes or other mass actions by workers   Strike by mineworkers at Europe's largest mine  • Websites • Sites that focus on the workers' movement and the left in Russia   ISWoR, Proletarism, Vladimir's pages, etc, etc, etc  • Russia Newswire • A Stream of Articles from Various Sources on Russia   Current Events and Political Commentary  • Email lists • Elists focused on the workers' movement and the left in Russia   Iskra, Proletarism, StachkomRU, Russia Info List, p-d-focus, pu-pc  • KZoT Debate • The debate on the campaign against the new KZoT (Labor Code)   A clash of views on the KZoT's importance to Russian workers  • Organizations • relevant to the workers' movement and the Russian left   ISWoR, Zaschita, MWP, PDP/Samara Stachkom, KPRF, RKRP, FNPR  • Names in news • People in the news in relation to the workers' movement and the left in Russia   Oleg Shein, Grigorii Isaev, Anpilov, Zuganov  • People who post • People who have contributed noteworthy posts to English language email lists   Steve Myers, Steve Kerr, Lisa, Graham, Heli, Aro, Pia, Perry, Ben  • Landmark Events • Key events in the workers' movement in Russia   (quick summary of the general strike, the "Rail Wars", the Gorbaty bridge, etc)  • A.B Razlatzky • The Party of the Proletariat Must Not be the Ruling Party!   Down with the bourgeois democrats and the feudal communists!  • anti-slander • (here is where we point out the slander that has led us to create this site)   blah, blah, blah ...  • Theory debate • The nature of proletarian democracy (and the views of A.B. Razlatzky)   Discussion and debate on the theoretical issues that matter  • The p-d-focus list • Discussion of discipline and focus for the Proletarism list   The "p-d-focus list" facilitates public discussion of list principles and practice  • Want to help? • Here is how you can help us   (list what we think serious activsts can do)  • About this site • What this site is and why we created it   blah, blah, blah ...  • Moons of Jupiter • A list of some of the moons of Jupiter   Io, Europa, Ganymede, Callisto  • Rainbow Colors • All the colors of the Rainbow are beautiful   red, green, yellow, etc.   Information wants to be free to serve the working class!

go to top Strike News News about current strikes or other mass actions by workers (from the Iskra email list) Vorkuta miners on strike URGENT APPEAL! - 15 December 2000 Yesterday, mineworkers at Europe's largest mine Worgaschorskaya in the Vorkuta region have gone on indefinite strike. The strike is organised by the all-Russia trade union, Zaschita. The striking workers have occupied the surface areas of the mine. As workers of other shifts arrive for work, they are joining in the occupation. The basic demands of the Zaschita strikers are simply payment of their wages for October and November, as the winter weather bites deeper. The miners declare they will fight to the end! Zaschita appeals to the workers movement in Russia and the world over to immediately send protest and solidarity messages, faxes, telegrams, e-mails. 007-82151-76675 (faxes for  both protest and solidarity letters) - Vorkuta, settlement mine(shaft) "Worgaschorskaya", administration (protest) - Vorkuta, settlement mine(shaft) "Worgaschorskaya", trade union «Zaschita» (support) 007-82151-56104  -  The telephone of trade union "Zaschita" s. "Worgaschorskaya" --[edited by Ben--Dec30]

go to top Websites Sites that focus on the workers' movement and the left in Russia (We need more info here) struggle.net/pu-pc Do we want a better (and easier to remember) name for our site? How about: struggle.net/russian-left or struggle.net/workers-russia or something like that? ISWoR International Solidarity with Workers of Russia. Proletarism The PDP / Samara Stachkom has a site at proletarism.org and a mirror at stachkom.org rosskommuna Has links to several other sites, including: All-Russian Campaign in Defense of the Labor Code, and the Kirov Committee of the Union of Marxists. Vladimir Bilenkin, a respected activist, earlier this year came to the unfortunate conclusion that a campaign by western activists to oppose Putin's reactionary war in Chechnya may have been inspired by the British Secret Service or some sort of similar intelligence agency. We hope that Vladimir, and others who may share his views, will eventually develop a deeper understanding of class-based politics. In the meantime readers are welcome to visit Vladimir's page, check out his arguments and form their own conclusions: The Imperialist Left and the War in Chechnya and some email posts which debate the issue. Russian Language left.ru xxx, etc, etc, etc Zashchita Trud Zashchita Trud (Defense of Labour) is a confederation of independent trades unions of which Oleg Shein is one leader. FNPR (FITUR) The Federation of Independent Trade Unions of Russia is the successor organization to the Party controlled union of the Soviet period. This site has an English language section. other We should list every web site that is related to the workers' movement or the left in Russia. For example I just read about the website of the Russian Maoist Party and their mirror. Western bourgeois news sites Guardian, New York Times, Stratfor --[edited by Ben--Mar24]

go to top Russia Newswire A Stream of Articles from Various Sources on Russia Russia Newswire Thanks to Steve Myers and Others for providing a stream of articles relevant to Russia today. Though much of this material is from bourgeois sources, it nonetheless provides an interesting window into the contemporary situation there. Suggestions about how to englarge this section, or indeed any other, together with any additional sources of high quality current events and political commentary on Russia are very welcome! iskra-957 • (Christian Science Monitor) • 21.Dec.2000 • The Kremlin takes on workers   (forwarded by Michael) In the 70's we used to call it the "Christian Science Monster". Useful to get a bourgeois perspective on key issues. --[edited by Ben--Dec31] iskra-918 • (The Economist) • 09.Dec.2000 • Russia's feeble trade unions still too strong for the government's taste   (forwarded by Steve Myers) --[edited by Ben--Dec31] iskra-919 • (Noyan Tapan news agency) • 09.Dec.2000 • Russia and America play a tense game in the South Caucasus   (forwarded by Steve Myers) --[edited by Ben--Dec31] iskra-952 • (Boris Kagarlitsky) • 18.Dec.2000 • Life after the CPRF Congress   (forwarded by Steve Myers, who noted an earlier report: Communist Party Chief Blasted a Party Conference) --[edited by Ben--Dec31] iskra-956 • (Renfrey Clark) • 20.Dec.2000 • Protest Day in a Russian coal town (October 1998)   (forwarded by Steve Myers) --[edited by Ben--Dec31] --[edited by Perry--Feb4] --[edited by Perry--Feb6]

go to top Email lists Elists focused on the workers' movement and the left in Russia We need info here: Iskra xxx Proletarism xxx StachkomRU xxx Russia Info List xxx p-d-focus xxx pu-pc xxx --[edited by Ben--Dec30]

go to top KZoT Debate The debate on the campaign against the new KZoT (Labor Code) The following is a list of posts, largely from the ISKRA list, in the debate surrounding 'Zashchita's' campaign against the new KZoT (Kodeks Zakon o Trud), the new Labour Code. Of course, much valuable and interesting material is left out! Readers interested in more detail are strongly encouraged to visit the archives of the ISKRA list. iskra-686 • Grigorii Isaev • 25.Sep.2000 • Smooth Operators  & Tricksters in Government   Here Grigorii Isaev, leader of the Samara Stachkom, calls attention to the harmful character of the 'Zashchita' campaign against the new KZoT. He points out that the masses are apparently deaf to the appeals of 'Zashchita' to fight against the new Labour Code and that the demonstrations of the 17th May were dominated by the worst enemies of the workers struggle, the KPRF, the FNPR and others. --[edited by Perry--Feb6] iskra-701 • Oleg Shein • 28.Sep.2000 • A Virtual Strike   In this article, Oleg Shein, a leader of the 'Zashchita' trade union movement and of the campaign against the new KZoT, devotes most attention to belittling the Samara Stachkom and especially comrades Isaev and Kotel'nikov and strongly implies that the reason for Isaev's opposition to the campaign against the new KZoT is that he is in the pay of the government and in league with anti-semites. --[edited by Perry--Feb5] iskra-700 • Steve Myers • 28.Sep.2000 • Oleg Shein replies to Infantile Isayev   Steve Myers endorses and expands on the personal attacks against the Samara Stachkom, addressing none of the facts or of the political issues raised in the criticism of the campaign against the new KZoT. --[edited by Perry--Feb5] iskra-753 • Steve Myers • 21.Oct.2000 • Oleg Shein  details Isayev nazi collaboration   Although this piece contains a great many more personal attacks against Samara, Steve Myers manages to up the ante in the headline by charging Grigorii Isaev with Nazi collaboration. The word 'Nazi' does not occur in the article by Oleg Shein --[edited by Perry--Feb6] iskra-754 • Ben Seattle • 24.Oct.2000 • Information war  breaks out ...   Ben Seattle reviews the debate to date. He concludes that the balance of the available evidence favours 'Zashchita's' view that a struggle must be waged against the new KZoT but finds some justice in the Samara Stachkom's contention that 'Zashchita' is relying on anti-worker forces to develop the movement. --[edited by Perry--Feb5] --[edited by Perry--Feb6] iskra-779 • Perry Vodchik • 07.Nov.2000 • Pre-Revolutionary Situation in Russia?   Perry Vodchik criticizes the postings of Ben Seattle and others from the standpoint that their appraisals of the circumstances do not take account of the existence of an objectively pre-revolutionary situation in Russia. --[edited by Perry--Feb5] iskra-782 • Heli Santavuori • 10.Nov.2000 • ISWoRs aims and methods?!!!   Heli Santavuori of the 'Finnish Solidarity Committee for the Russian Workers' expresses the view that the conduct of Steve Myers and Lisa Taylor in the debate surrounding the campaign against the new KZoT has violated ISWoR's Statement of Aims and Methods. --[edited by Perry--Feb5] --[edited by Perry--Feb6] iskra-805 • Perry Vodchik • 13.Nov.2000 • Deeper and Deeper   Perry Vodchik does some research on the allegations that the Samara Stachkom/PDP collaborated with a known anti-semite. The clear answer appears to be no. --[edited by Perry--Feb6] iskra-943 • Steve Myers • 14.Dec.2000 • The Tragedy of December 1st   Steve Myers' summary of the events of the 1st of December. In his view the key element of the 'tragedy' was the increased participation of 'red-brown' forces. --[edited by Perry--Feb6] iskra-979 • Perry Vodchik • 03.Jan.2001 • The Lessons of December 1st   Perry Vodchik's view of the lessons to be learned from failure of the 1st of December. Perry argues that the key lesson of this debacle are first that, in spite of being ready to engage in militant action on crucial questions, the working class did not support the campaign of 'Zashchita' because life teaches it that all law in Russia is fiction and so it is not willing to make great sacrifices to fight to retain the existing, fictitious, Labour Code, and second that the working class movement in Russia can rely neither on the KPRF or its splinters, the RKRP and others, nor on the FNPR or other 'friends' of labour to develop its fighting readiness. --[edited by Perry--Feb6] iskra-1009 • Markku Aro • 08.Jan.2001 • Another View  of the 1st December   Markku Aro comments on the KZoT debate. --[edited by Perry--Feb6] iskra-1046 • Oleg Shein • 19.Jan.2001 • Oleg Shein`s  answer to Perry Vodchik   Oleg Shein offers his assessment of the events of the campaign and his opinion that there is no pre-revolutionary situation in Russia. --[edited by Perry--Feb6] iskra-1068 • Perry Vodchik • 30.Jan.2001 • More on the 1st of December    Perry Vodchik on some reasons for thinking that there is a pre-revolutionary situation in Russia. Perry also critiques the conclusions of Steve Kerr and Steve Myers on the KZoT campaign and offers some observations on the valuable work done by Zashchita in the working class movement. --[edited by Perry--Feb6] --[edited by Ben--Dec30] --[edited by Perry--Feb6] --[edited by Ben--Jul13]

go to top Organizations relevant to the workers' movement and the Russian left (We need short descriptions here of the various organizations. We will also include here organizations, such as the KPRF, RKRP and FNPR which are the enemies of the working class.) ISWoR xxx Steve Myers, etc. etc. Zaschita xxx Oleg Shein etc. MWP xxx PDP/Samara Stachkom The PDP (Party of the Proletarian Dictatorship) is led by Grigorii Isaev, who also leads the Samara Stachkom (ie: strike committee of Samara).  KPRF xxx RKRP xxx FNPR xxx --[edited by Ben--Dec30]

go to top Names in news People in the news in relation to the workers' movement and the left in Russia Note to editors: We will eventually need a list here of at least a dozen or more well-known people. Also--Should we sort this list alphabetically or in terms of how well-known the various personalities are? As the list grows we will might need to make it alphabetic. But then should we sort it by first name or last? If we sort by last name then maybe we should list last name first? Oleg Shein One of the leaders of the Zaschita (ie: "Defense") union, Oleg Shein is widely considered to be the only genuine leftist in the Russian Duma..... Grigorii Isaev Leader of the Samara Stachkom and the PDP, Grigorii was was arrested and sentenced to a prison camp in 1981 for his role in organizing workers' strike and an underground communist organization within the depths of the Brezhnevite police-state. He was arrested twice under Yeltsin in 1998 for leading the successful two-month long strike of the 5,000 worker ZIM (Zavod imeni Maslennikova) factory and the blockade of the main street of Samara which paralyzed the center of the city.  Samara (formerly Kuybyshev) is a heavily industrialized city of about 1.5 million on the Volga river about 500 miles southeast of Moscow. For more background see: "The Life of Grigory Isayev" at Leninism.org/stream/99/isayev.asp Anpilov The leader of xxx. Zuganov (Is this spelled right?) Leader of the KPRF --[edited by Ben--Feb8]

go to top People who post People who have contributed noteworthy posts to English language email lists Steve Myers The founder and moderator of the Iskra email list and the most prominent leader of ISWoR. Other supporters of ISWoR include Steve Kerr and Lisa Taylor. Boris Budraitskis blah, blah, blah ... Perry Vodchik blah, blah, blah ... Ben Seattle blah, blah, blah ... Heli Santavuori blah, blah, blah ... Markku Aro blah, blah, blah ... Graham Cee blah, blah, blah ... xxx blah, blah, blah ... --[edited by Ben--Feb8]

go to top Landmark Events Key events in the workers' movement in Russia We will put quick summaries (dates, brief descriptions and the number of workers involved) here of: the general strike xxxx the "Rail Wars" xxxx Gorbaty bridge xxxx other key strikes and actions xxxx --[edited by Ben--Dec30]

go to top A.B Razlatzky The Party of the Proletariat Must Not be the Ruling Party! --[edited by Perry--Feb6] --[edited by Perry--Feb6]

go to top anti-slander (here is where we point out the slander that has led us to create this site) iskra-1138 • earl gilman • 23.Feb.2001 • So sectarians get the boot!  So what?   Earl supports the expulsion of Perry and Ben because they "want the ISKRA list to become a discussion group which never would decide anything". Earl adds: "While they protest against their expulsion, they themselves propose to expel the members of the KPRF from the trade union Zaschita and criticize Oleg Shein for not doing so!" Earl is (a) confusing Perry's statement with Ben's, (b) misrepresenting (most likely) Perry's position, and (c) completely fails to recognize that Iskra promotes itself as a discussion list where criticism is allowed and opposing views are welcome. Because this is such a brilliant example of sectarianism (ie: the expulsion of Perry and Ben from a discussion list because they criticized aspects of the campaign against Putin's Labor Code) in defense of reformism--Ben Seattle intends (eventually) to reply. --[edited by Ben--Jun30] --[edited by Ben--Dec30] --[edited by Ben--Jun30]

go to top Theory debate The nature of proletarian democracy (and the views of A.B. Razlatzky) (Once things become "normal" and we get our act together we should make an effort to reply to one another within 30 days) iskra-779 • Perry Vodchik • 07.Nov.2000 • Pre-Revolutionary Situation in Russia?   Perry Vodchik criticizes the postings of Ben Seattle and others from the standpoint that their appraisals of the circumstances do not take account of the existence of an objectively pre-revolutionary situation in Russia. --[edited by Perry--Feb5] proletarism-644 • Ben Seattle • 20.May.2001 • The PDP and the struggle for partial demands (reply to Perry)   "Can we properly even use the word 'reform' to describe the struggles which are on the agenda in Russia today?" -- Perry Vodchik Ben replies: "Yes" contents: 1. Our story so far 2. Reformist-Sectarian ecological formations 3. Reforms vs. Reformism 4. A Pre-Revolutionary situation in Russia? 5. The labor aristocracy 6. Creating a newspaper 7. A final note --[edited by Ben--May24] proletarism-313 • Ben Seattle • 23.Sep.2000 • On the correspondence of the IWC and PDP    Ben Seattle comments on the issues raised in the exchange between James Paris (of the IWC) and Grigorii Isaev (of the PDP) and Perry Vodchik (a supporter of the PDP). Concerning the nature of the changes in the former Soviet Union that took place under the leadership of Gorbachev and Yeltsin Some questions on the nature of imperialism, including the nature of the recent Balkan war Concerning the character of the Fourth International, founded by Trotsky Concerning the relationship, after a successful workers' revolution, between a workers' government, a Marxist party and the working class itself Ben's comments (under point 4 above) include the following criticism of the views of A. B. Razlatsky: "Razlatzky's prohibition of dual membership in party and state is the wrong answer to the right question. The corruption and degeneration of Lenin's party was due to the absence of proletarian democracy. Proletarian democracy could not exist in more than embryonic form during the period in which Lenin was alive because the revolutionary forces in early Soviet Russia were too weak and lacked a functioning economy and sufficiently stable popular support. In the absence of proletarian democracy no system of formal measures could possibly withstand the tremendous forces that would corrupt the proletarian party and state." "Razlatzky's error, which he could not anticipate when he wrote these words in 1979, is manifested with greater clarity when we consider the conditions of a modern society with a developed digital communications infrastructure ..." --[edited by Ben--Mar24] --[edited by Ben--May24]

go to top The p-d-focus list Discussion of discipline and focus for the Proletarism list Having a separate list for this purpose will allow proletarism subscribers to participate in and better understand the decision-making process related to list discipline and focus. At the same time this list can help improve the signal-to-noise ratio in the proletarism list by providing a convenient place to discuss issues that will be of interest only to a relatively small subset of the larger list. An illustrated proposal for the development of the system of lists can be seen at: struggle.net/proletarism p-d-focus-37 • Ben Seattle • 14.Dec.2000 • The separation of quality from quantity   (excerpt) "I propose that an effective list will not be a single list--but rather a _system_ of lists (ie: at least two distinct lists). One list would have relatively looser moderation, a higher ratio of actives to passives, and a smaller audience. The other list would have a larger audience--much tighter rules of moderation--and a higher signal-to-noise ratio. These two lists would work together and the best posts from the smaller list would be forwarded to the larger list. The smaller list would have a greater volume of posts than the larger list. But the larger list would have the higher s/n ratio and the mass audience." --[edited by Ben--Mar24] p-d-focus-38 • Ben Seattle • 15.Dec.2000 • Proposal for Proletarism-A and Proletarism-B    Ben Seattle outlines the proposed structure of the proletarism list system. --[edited by Ben--Mar24] p-d-focus-44 • Ben Seattle • 27.Jan.2001 • DRAFT -- Proposed change to the proletarism list   A proposed emergency measure to freeze nearly all list activity in order to immediately stop the erosion of the proletarism subscriber base. Includes a lengthy form to which all subscribers would have to agree in order to have the right to post. "These measures will, unfortunately, shut down most activity on the proletarism list. But most current activity is not all that useful. Today--we reduce the noise. Hopefully soon we can take positive measures to boost the signal (ie: increase serious participation on the list)." --[edited by Ben--Mar24] p-d-focus-48 • Perry Vodchik • 09.Feb.2001 • On Reorganization and Development of the Proletarism List   "In this short letter I want to offer some brief comments on Ben's proposal to reorganize the proletarism list. These thoughts may appear somewhat disjointed and should not be considered a final comment, but rather as the start of a discussion which I am committed to seeing through." "To sum up, I believe that Ben and I see similar problems on the list, but have somewhat different ideas about how to cure them. One key problem is what Ben, I think reasonably enough, refers to as the "signal to noise ratio," that is the problem of posts which are at best marginally related to the focus of the list. A second problem is the relative inactivity on the list." --[edited by Ben--Mar24] p-d-focus-49 • Ben Seattle • 09.Feb.2001 • Re: On Reorganization and Development of the Proletarism List   A brief reply by Ben to Perry: 'For now I would like to simply point out that I would also appreciate your comments on my posts on Dec 14 and 15 (ie: "The separation of quality from quantity" and "Proposal for Proletarism-A and Proletarism-B").' --[edited by Ben--Mar24] p-d-focus-51 • Ben Seattle • 19.Feb.2001 • 8 questions    (excerpt) (1) Do we want to go to a two-list system? (2) If so--how should we do it? (3) If we don't go to a two-list system then what will we do about the periodic off-topic posts? (4) What will be the mission statement of the list? (5) What will be the general principles that will guide it? (6) What specific functions would we need to ask for help on? (7) What should be the rights of participants? (8) are we really up for this? --[edited by Ben--Mar24] p-d-focus-52 • Ben Seattle • 19.Feb.2001 • (1) Rights for participants, (2) Proposal for "Read-Only" and "Active" lists   two sections of posts that Ben made to Iskra and to pu-pc --[edited by Ben--Mar24] p-d-focus-53 • Heli Santavuori • 21.Feb.2001 • Vs: 8 questions    Heli replies to the 8 questions. (excerpts) "The starting point should be that it is a list owned by Samara Stachkom. What does this mean in practice? At least, it is for them to decide. And if we others discuss about developing proletarism-list, the starting point should be, I think, how the list best serves the aims of our friends in Samara. Even if we have perhaps different aims in some questions and certainly different opinions in many questions, when discussing precisely the proletarism-list, we should bear this in mind. Which is: how to help them to get their message through in the West, understandable for the Western audience. Also, of course, to help them to take part and study the discussions and the situation in the West, and to have aglobal perspective." "I think Ben's idea about two lists is really good. But then the 'read-only' list should not be a copy of Iskra." --[edited by Ben--Mar24] p-d-focus-54 • Heli Santavuori • 23.Feb.2001 • A few more comments    A few more comments from Heli --[edited by Ben--Mar24] p-d-focus-59 • Grigorii Iseav • 26.Feb.2001 • On the "proletarism" list   (excerpts) There are two basic causes of the sickness of 'proletarism' 1.There is the absolute inability of the majority of readers to properly conduct interesting discussions. [...] 2. [...] We have been extremely weak in our participation in the general life and work of the list. [...] yesterday, we seriously considered this painful question and resolved that, in the future, we will actively participate in the work of 'proletarism.' --[edited by Ben--Mar24] p-d-focus-60 • Ben Seattle • 27.Feb.2001 • Developing the proletarism lists (reply to comrade Grigorii)   (excerpt) "My view is that over the next six months we should work, here on p-d-focus, to develop a "mission statement" and a set of guiding principles for the proletarism list. This should be our number one priority--above all else. The currently existing principles are obsolete and emerged as a compromise intended to allow both Robert Malecki and myself to continue to function as list moderators. In retrospect we can see that such a hope was doomed from the start." --[edited by Ben--Mar24] p-d-focus-62 • Perry Vodchik • 06.Mar.2001 • More Thoughts on the Path Forward   (excerpt) "I frankly do not have the energy to spend 6 months, as Ben has suggested, discussing the details of a policy for 'proletarism.'" "I believe that the best approach to improving 'proletarism' is a patient, flexible, non-bureaucratic one. First, wherever possible, we should engage those posting inappropriate materials in discussion in order to bring the contradictions into the open. Secondly, we should make our execution of whatever flexible policy we adopt as simple, consistent and automatic as possible. [...] And thirdly, we should immediately try to solicit participation of the subscribers in charting the path forward, in tightening discipline, and in carrying out concrete activity in developing a wider 'proletarism' e-space. To this end, I have drafted an appeal to the subscribers which is appended below." --[edited by Ben--Mar24] p-d-focus-65 • Ben Seattle • 23.Mar.2001 • We must change the way the proletarism list is run (Ben to Comrade Gregorii Isaev)   (excerpt) "I consider it necessary that Perry have control of the list because otherwise I have no effective method of influencing the development of the list. The barriers of time and language make it impractical for me to communicate with you directly. (You can run my English words thru an automatic translator--but god knows what will come out the other end.)" --[edited by Ben--Mar24] p-d-focus-68 • Ben Seattle • 25.Mar.2001 • Building a conscious list   1.  First, to Heli 2.  My proposal 3.  The active list 4.  The advantages 5.  The opening created by the failure of Iskra 6.  Correspondents to summarize feed lists 7.  Theory and the proletarian democracy lists 8.  Surveying the membership 9.  Signal-to-Noise ratio 10. Building a list on a conscious basis Appendix A -- my September 23 criticism of Razlatsky Appendix B -- 13 posts from the p-d-focus list --[edited by Ben--Mar25] --[edited by Ben--Mar24] --[edited by Ben--Mar25]

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