Last updated: 8.Jul.2001
Proletarian Democracy
 
Proldem-Open

The Proletarian Democracy Open List
has been set up to discuss:

How will economics, politics and culture work
when the working class runs modern society?

Contents:
  1. The Rules
  2. Public Archives
  3. How to Subscribe (without the right to post)
  4. How to get the right to post
  5. An important note on security

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Anyone can subscribe to the Proletarian Democracy Open List and will be able to receive posts. But in order to have the right to post, you will need to fill out and send in a form (see below) agreeing to respect the rules.

-- The Rules --
  1. The majority of your posts, and the energy that you put into the list, will be directed at developing the list focus:
    How will economics, politics and culture work when the working class runs modern society?
  2. You will treat other list contributors with respect.
    This means that you will:
    • make a strong effort to listen to
      and consider the views of others
    • will take great care to avoid the misrepresentation
      or distortion
      of the views of others
    • will not accuse anyone else of dishonesty
      (unless you can prove your accusation in a way that is concise, credible and reasonably entertaining to our list audience).

The list will be open to contributors from a variety of views and ideologies. This will include marxists, anarchists and many people who are not committed to any fixed ideology--but who recognize that the working class does not rule society at present--and who believe that it can run society better than the bourgeoisie.

Some contributors may believe that, at some point, the working class ruled (or presently continues to rule) countries like Russia or China. Others will believe that genuine working class rule has never existed (except, possibly, in an embryonic form that never had an opportunity to develop).

However if you don't believe (or are not open to the idea) that society is presently ruled by a relatively small class of wealth and privilege (ie: the bourgeoisie) then this list is probably not for you. Similarly, if you believe that the current ruling class is doing a fine job running society--then this list will not be the place for you to hang out.

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Public Archives:

Can be seen at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proldem-open/messages

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How to Subscribe (without the right to post):

Before you can post you must
fill in and send the form (below)
To receive posts simply send email to
proldem-open-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

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How to get the right to post:

Follow these steps:
(1) Read the Important Note on Security (at the bottom of this page)
(2) Subscribe (as explained directly above), and
(3) then cut and paste the following form in an email
(putting an "X" in the appropriate box and
substituting your comments for "xxx")
and send it to: proldem-open@pix.org

This email will be forwarded to the list as an announcement that
you have the right to post and an introduction to who you are.


1. The majority of my posts, and the energy
   that I put into the list, will be directed
   at developing the list focus:

     How will economics, politics and culture work
     when the working class runs modern society?


   [ ] Agree
   [ ] Disagree

   Comments:
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2. I will treat other list contributors with respect.
   I will:
   (a) make a strong effort to listen to
       and consider the views of others
   (b) will take great care to avoid the
       misrepresentation or distortion
       of the views of others
   (c) will not accuse anyone else of dishonesty
       (unless I can prove my accusation
       in a way that is concise, credible
       and reasonably entertaining).


   [ ] Agree
   [ ] Disagree

   Comments:
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3. I have read and understood the
   "important note on security"

   [ ] Yes
   [ ] No

   Comments:
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4. Any other comments you would like to make
   to introduce yourself to the list audience
   (ie: political views, activity, experience,
    background and other lists you are on):


   Comments:
   xxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxx xxxxxx xxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxx
   xxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxx xxxxxx xxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxx

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An important note on security

This list will be public. If you post here--your email address (and name) will exist until the end of time on public archives that can (and sometimes will) be easily discovered (using web-based search engines such as google.com) by current or potential employers or authorities who will likely take a dim view of the discussion here--which may relate to strikes and similar actions in places of employment and schools (not to mention the forcible overthrow of bourgeois rule and all existing institutions). In order to protect yourself against various forms of harassment and retaliation (or, if you live in many parts of Asia, Africa and Latin America, risks to your personal safety) you are strongly advised to make your posts using a pseudonym and a hotmail (or similar) email account.