Real organization cannot be built
If we can create a mass anti-imperialist organization
On the other hand, if we fail to understand
what mass democracy is -- then we will end up with
SAIC and the struggle for sobriety
The Seattle Anti-Imperialist Committee
and the struggle for sobriety
(and a high productivity of labor)
in the antiwar and revolutionary movements
Ben Seattle July 17, 2008 2,000 words
-- also includes --
"Ben is a liar and demagogue" -- Frank replies, July 25
The Road to Sobriety (part 2) -- Ben Seattle, Sept 7
Showdown on Seattle Indymedia (Sept 7 - 13)
Cargo-Cult Leninism vs. Information War
Once again on Ben Seattle, planning, and the role of the proletarian party
Ben Seattle Feb 22, 2008
The most important task for revolutionaries in
Why do we need organization?
Reply to a cargo-cult Leninist:
Ben Seattle January 26, 2008 13,000 words
Joseph, Ben and Alex grapple with principles
Joseph provides links to his articles - but not to most of Ben's replies
Building a Community of Information War
Frank replies to Ben
Bens politics in general---are instructive in showing how the sloughing over political questions can lead one into a sterile desert.
After 15 years of internet fire
"Cargo-Cult Leninism" vs. Political Transparency
"Information War" Program for SAIC Where is my organization?
Cargo cults and cargo-cult Leninism Join our group We can do your thinking for you
(Why do supporters of left-wing groups often drink the kool-aid ?)
(GLUE to hold us together? a STICK to beat heretics? or a LIGHT to help us see?)
The Spectre of Endless Discussion What is Bens idea of a "trend of trends"?
Is Ben an anarchist ? (Watch out for his Trojan Horse!) Showdown at final congress of MLP
Confronting a refugee from theoretical needs of class struggle (Ben Seattle vs. Joseph Green)
Foundations of revisionism ("Marxism-Leninism" is anti-Marxist, anti-Leninist & revisionist)
Alex writes to Frank and SAIC concerning fundamental principles.
Ben Seattle Sept 9
includes chart: "DP vs. the DP-embryo" and
Lenin's comments on a Bolshevik "two-party system"
Letter to Comrade Edward:
We cannot build our movement around the goal of a world in which society -- and everything which we have fought and sacrificed for -- is in danger of suffocation -- in which everything is hanging by a thread. Our goal must be victory.
We cannot ask
the working class
to sacrifice for this struggle if we cannot
hold up the light of theory and illuminate
the path to victory.
This is why it cannot be the period of martial law (ie: the rule of a single organization with the power to suppress its opposition) which might conclude a possible civil war -- but the period after in which the working class makes daily use of the fundamental democratic rights of speech and organization to defend its role as master of society -- which we must recognize as workers' rule (or, if you will, the dictatorship of the proletariat).
Replies from Joseph Green, MB, Frank
PDXIMC thread May 14, 16 & 17 5700 words
Make Hay while the Sun Shines
(Ben replies to Michael) May 20 & 25 4300 words
CIW # 55 -- Ben replies to Frank:
spontaneity, meatspace and
(1) why caro-cult Leninists fear "spontaneity"
Frank Replies to CIW #55
Frank argues that Ben has not replied
information war is central
Until we can clearly and openly address the legitimate concerns of hundreds of thousands of activists -- we cannot have ideological superiority in information war.
Unfortunately, the theoretical journal that Frank supports
has never explained that democratic rights
(such as the right to speech and the right to organization)
will be necessary in order for the working class
the failure of our community
A materialist study of the conditions of a modern, stable society (ie: with a modern functioning economy and infrastructure, etc) will make clear that a working class state with the support of the majority of the population would not need to: (1) merge the party and the state -- or -- (2) suppress the democratic rights of workers These things will be neither practical nor necessary in the conditions of a workers' state that enjoys the support of the majority of the population in a modern stable society.
Frank retreats from
Frank replies to Ben's public criticism and to Ben's proposal for an open and democratic anti-imperialist network.
Frank also explains why he proposed
And Frank explains why he retreated from
Frank on the
Frank explains why he believes that
Frank also describes some of the circumstances surrounding the breakup of the MLP in 1993 and the theoretical confrontation between Ben and the CVO.
Ben's theoretical views on future classless society,
according to Frank, represent
Activists have the right to know
what the fuck is going on
Ben's main criticism of the
Ben would like SAIC to have a page on its website where activists could go to learn about the various political currents in and around the organization (ie: so that they can find this out without having to read an Indymedia post). And Ben would like the group to give readers the ability to post comments on its website about its agitation (ie: so that readers could do so there as easily as they can do so on Indymedia).
Ben thinks that Indymedia is great. But any organization that is serious about mass democracy will send a clear signal to activists everywhere that they do not need to google ancient indymedia archives in order to know what the fuck is going on.
The future of SAIC
Ben has two basic problems with SAIC.
a) SAIC is not organized in a way
that is consistent with the kind of
mass democratic decision-making
b) SAIC has no commitment to
The development of an anti-imperialist pole of attraction within the antiwar movement requires an "open politics" organizational model that will allow activists to "see inside" our organization and participate and intervene in the struggles that determine our direction.
This essay also criticizes Frank's proposal
Frank proposes that
Ben ... shouldn't be allowed
Real organization requires a commitment to transparency
This is an open letter from Ben Seattle
What kind of Organization does the antiwar
An organization capable of overthrowing
Only principled, transparent and long-term collaboration
between serious activists can:
be able to gag party members?
Ben Seattle May 1 480 words
Ben criticizes the commonly held cargo-cultist view
Ben Seattle replies to Wilhelmina November 2003 3200 words
Ben Seattle July 2002 2200 words
The liquidation of the Seattle Anti-Imperialist Alliance
Ben Seattle July 2001 2800 words
17 Theses on the destiny of
(1) the concept of workers' rule --
and (2) the emerging revolution
in communications -- and its significance for the awakening
of proletarian political life
Along with other reasons, we need mass democracy