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Cargo-Cult Leninism vs. Information War
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Appendix C: Who will control the gift economy? Eric, you have also replied to me concerning how the economy of a classless society, with no money or
markets, will be organized. I will not attempt, in this reply, to respond to
every single point that you make. It is
my intent to be responsive to you--but I cannot do everything at once. I also understand that readers, also, have
limited time and want me to keep my response to you shorter than a book. So I will reply here to what may be the most
important issues related to your comments on this topic. And in the third chapter of my reply (please
see below) I will offer some suggestions for how we may be able to continue our
conversation in such a way that both of us can be accountable (ie: responsive
to one another and to the expectations of our audience) within the practical
limitations of our very limited time. There are two main points you raise in criticism
of my views on the gift economy. You
assert that, without a hierarchical system of centralized planning and
control capable of making decisions which everyone must obey (ie:
"binding on all") the self-organizing gift economy: (1) would have no effective way for various production
units to plan and coordinate their actions over time and distance. (2) would fall prey to corruption as
various production units asserted ownership over what they produced--and
then combined together on the basis of quid pro quo exchange (ie: which
would inevitably lead back to a system of commodity production and all
the evils of the capitalist system). The basic flaw in your arguments is that you
begin by first making the assumption that you intend to prove. And the assumption that you intend to
prove is, essentially, that workers will never be able to self-organize
(ie: plan and coordinate their actions) without a central authority that
they must obey. Does planning require a central authority? You give a number of examples of coordination
which are supposedly impossible without a centralized authority. You discuss migratory species, birds,
wetlands preservation, flood-control policies along the thousands of miles of
rivers, global warming and the need to monitor greenhouse emissions. You conclude with this stirring conclusion: > A social system that aimed to address these
widespread > systems would need to coordinate across
vast areas, and > only through planning could that
coordination be > accomplished. And, of course, your statement above is
completely correct. None of these things can take place without
planning. The problem is that you are assuming that
planning cannot take place without a central authority that everyone is
required to obey. But an assumption is not the same as a
scientific argument. Individuals and self-organizing groups
will establish their reputations and inspire respect--and work to plan and
coordinate actions on the local, national and international level. On the most important questions a clear consensus
will usually emerge over time (and sometimes after struggle that will engage
the emotions of many people). This will
be easier in a classless society than it is now because (1) society will not be
dominated by ignorance and the bourgeois ideology and (2) the level of
consciousness and experience in organizing things will be much higher than it
is now. Classless society will have many methods and
mechanisms by which authority will exist. However this will be distributed authority. And individuals will choose to recognize this
authority (or to select which authority to recognize when the authorative
people or organizations disagree) on the basis of their own conscience
(which, for each person, will be the highest authority). None of this requires a single central
authority that can resolve disagreements. You appear to be preoccupied with how
"backward workers" will screw everything up and need to be told what
to do. But a preoccupation is not a
scientific argument. Yes, there may always be some people who are
backward. But the scenarios you put
forward of workers resolving their disagreements by beating the shit out of one
another would not be common and would be relatively easy to deal with. Lenin once described [C-1] how (in a
classless society without a state or an organized police force) people will
occasionally still get into fights. But
these fights would not require calling the cops. Rather, there would be a call to the common
sense of other people around who would break up the fight. Just as people will be able to break up a fight
without a need for a central authority--they will also be able to plan and
coordinate actions--even over thousands of miles. Do we need a single plan for the entire economy? Of course centralized authority in some forms
will always exist. You cannot, for
example, build an airplane or a freeway without a central plan which many
producing units must follow. But what
is not needed is a single plan for the entire economy. For example, a producing unit analogous to
Boeing could have its plan and Airbus could have a competing plan. Both Boeing and Airbus planes would need
standardized communications equipment so they could talk to air traffic
authorities and so forth. And they might
have some common suppliers so other things would be standardized. But there would be no need for a single
planning agency that makes a plan for all the planes that Boeing and Airbus
build. Much less would there be a need
for a central authority that plans the production of all airplanes and
automobiles, almonds and apples, aspirin and antihistamines, antennas and
amplifiers, apartments and aluminum alloy axes, applications and animated
cartoons (not to mention everything made by Acme--and everyone else). Joseph Green wrote a sixty-thousand word essay [C-2]
where he speculates on how this might all work using the method of
"material balances": essentially you make a big spreadsheet where
the columns and rows correspond to everything that is produced and consumed and
where it comes from and where it goes.
Of course you do not track every little 6 millimeter left-handed
titanium screw--you deal mainly in broad categories in order to avoid the need
for millions of rows and columns that would break your spreadsheet and would
also deprive production units of the initiative to choose whether to produce a
big screw or a little screw. Joseph has
clearly given these kinds of questions a lot of thought. This method did not work so well in the Soviet
Union, Joseph notes, but that was because the Soviet Union was a class-divided
society and the various production units were in competition with one another
and everyone attempted to hide information and cheat the system. Joseph suggests this method would have better
success if used to run the economy of a classless society. And something similar to the method of material
balances (called input/output charts) may sometimes be used today by large
factories or as part of analysis of some industrial sectors (for example:
mining or heavy industrial equipment)--or for products for which there is a
shortage and very high demand -- and this may continue in the future. But why should an entire economy be
run on such an unwieldy basis? There is no
need for this. I discussed this in March on the pof-300 list [C-3]: > In an future workers'
economy without a single point of > control there are likely to
be large plans covering major > portions of the economy.
These plans would be developed > by a collective
process. Independent producing units
that > strongly disagreed with
these plans would probably simply > opt-out of these plans--and
subscribe to (or develop) > alternate plans in order to
remain useful to society and > to demonstrate that plans
based on different principles > may be better. Will workers sacrifice their children to a pagan
god? Eric's other argument is that without a
centralized authority the gift economy would inevitably fall victim to
corruption: > sectors of the "gift economy"
would attach all sorts > of strings to their products. In this
struggle, production > units would certainly combine into blocs,
seeking to > maximize their power, both to get raw
materials they > need, and to strengthen their position in
the never-ending > fight with other production units with
which they disagree. > It doesn't take a lot of imagination to see
that quid pro > quo arrangements between these blocs would
spring up. > After all, policy-making in this utopia is
all about > mustering all of the strings you can, to
force others to > adopt your way. This is your picture of
utopia. > and they represent a kind of
proto-exchange. It is easy > to imagine more direct forms of exchange
developing out > of the very logic of your "gift"
economy. Two production > units or blocs of units might work out a
tentative, uneasy > alliance, because temporarily their
positions on certain > policy questions might coincide. They might
also find > that they could trade "no strings
attached" rights to use > each other's products. Or, a production
unit in one bloc > might sidestep an embargo by a supplier in
another bloc, > by making a trade: facilitate raw materials
reaching that > supplier in exchange for being supplied
itself. Ultimately, > direct exchange becomes the most potent
"no stings" string. > Why would anyone in this dog-eat-dog world
of yours give > anything away for free? Because of
ideological loyalty to > the "gift economy"? Marx showed that economic laws > override any individual's will. Just as in the development > of capitalist exchange, it is the logic of
your world that > exchange will arise, in spite of the will
or consciousness > of any individual. > [238] > What is the kind of corruption > that the masses would oppose ? > [239] Any
step in the direction of production for exchange > rather than consumption would
represent corruption of the > first order. Any production unit that
treats its products as > "property" would lose mass
support and not be able to > survive in competition with other
units that enjoy mass > support. And this would be a fairly
sensitive process. Even > very small steps in the direction of
treating products as > property could elicit a huge reaction
from the masses. This > is the amplification effect that
would give the communist > economy such steady direction and enormous
power . > [240] > Force "like gravity" would be resisted > by actions of the masses > [241]
In the early period of classless society there > would still exist substantial and
powerful remnants of the > self-centered ideology and thinking created
in previous > society. Under these conditions the tendency
toward > corruption would
assert itself as an inevitable force, > like gravity, that
could only be resisted through the > actions of the masses. Any tendency, by a production > unit, towards asserting
"ownership" over what it produces > -- would be exposed and smashed up by the
masses -- who > would regard this as similar to a parent
asserting > "ownership" over his adult
children. > [242] Joseph
describes how giant alliances and networks > may come into existence as
part of the political and > economic struggle within a
communist economic-political > system. And yes, such
alliances might come about (but not > monopolies -- because this
is another form of corruption > that the masses would not
permit -- because the potential > for abuse is extreme --
just like it is with the monopoly > of allegedly
"non-political" political power that Joseph > advocates with his
"von Neumann single point control > theory"). But such
alliances would likely be short-lived > in a fast-moving and
shifting economy and in any event > would be battered into
quick disintegration should they > engage in the open
tit-for-tat exchanges of products rather > than to make their products
available to all on the basis > of "wise use". > [243] The masses are
capable of grasping the necessity > of the principle of production
for use . The alliances > described by Joseph are
different than alliances formed on > the basis of political
principles such as developing the > economy and serving the
people. Joseph may not be able to > distinguish between
healthy and corrupt alliances . Joseph > may not be able to
distinguish between giving a product to > a production unit in
exchange for (a) its wise consumption > (ie: consumption beneficial
to society) and (b) another > product. But the masses
will . > [244] The masses will
support (with their labor, with their > consumption, with their
voice) those production units and > production alliances that
do the most to serve the people. > And vice versa -- those
units which do less well at serving > the needs of the masses
will not inspire the hard work and > play that will allow them
to expand and reproduce > themselves and their
hallmark traditions and methods. This > sounds like ruthless
"social Darwinism" to Joseph but it is > actually fairly simple: if
the music is not good -- people > will not dance to it. > [245] Joseph's Islands > [246] The corrupt alliances described by
Joseph, should > they come about, would be quickly isolated.
I propose > calling such formations "Joseph's
Islands" in honor of > Joseph, who has theorized their existence.
And what would > be the fate of Joseph's islands ? Such
islands would end > up diminutive within an ocean of economic
activity. They > would enjoy rapidly dwindling mass support.
They would > likely evaporate or shrink to
insignificance. It is > difficult to conceive of self-sufficient
islands able to > survive in a vast interconnected economy
because > interaction with and support from the rest
of the economy > would be a condition of the existence of
any production > unit of real significance. > for a production unit that is corrupt ? In
a communist > economy no one needs to work in order to
eat and live. > It is the other way around. People live in
order to work > and this means that they would no sooner
want to work for > an outfit that is corrupt than they would
want to sacrifice > their children to a pagan god. So if
Joseph's island is > based on commodity production then the
redivision of > labor (the cleavage into classes with
antagonistic material > interests) would eventually assert itself
and the workers > would have a problem with the way things
are done. What is > to prevent the workers from saying adios
(and taking with > them the most important and decisive
element of production: > their skilled labor) ? There would be
plenty of other > places where people could work for free and
be appreciated > and be part of a community based on the
principle of > serving the people. Yes, it is true, as Eric notes, that economic
laws override the individual will.
But the problem with Eric's argument is that he assumes that an
economic law emerging from commodity production has already become
dominant. But this can only happen when exchange
and commodity production are already well-established. The masses in a classless society have a powerful
material interest in preventing a return to commodity production. And for this reason they will act
decisively to crush corruption if and when it emerges [C-5]. Speaking of corruption--Eric's
hypothesized hierarchical central planning authority would have its own problem
whereby people at or near the apex of this excessive concentration of authority
would face unnatural and insincere relationships with anyone interested
in a favorable ruling. They would be
flattered: told that their farts didn't smell and their bad jokes were
funny. And this is (supposedly) the
future of humanity until the end of time. Will we use carrots and sticks -- or our
internal compass?
And this leads us to the profound relationship
between enthusiasm and labor productivity. Workers' convictions in the validity
of what they are doing (ie: the nature of the goods or services they are
creating or distributing and the principles or methods which guide their work)
will be inseparable from labor productivity and from individual
and team initiative.
Will Dixie's Barbeque need permission from
planners? Eric says that planning authorities would not be
overly intrusive into how production units are run. He gives the example of a restaurant that
would be able to change its menu without the need to first seek approval
from a bureaucratic national decision-making body. That's cool.
Nobody wants to stand in the way of people who take the initiative. But at what point does approval from
planners (either local or national) become necessary? There is a well-known restaurant in the local
area known as Dixie's Barbeque.
People who are really into barbeque say that there are many better
places--but Dixie's remains the most popular.
One of the complaints against Dixie's is that it is so busy you have to
wait in line a very long time to get served.
The place is built on something of a gimmick. A large and very imposing black man, named
Gene, walks around the place with what he calls "the man" (ie: a
small bowl of ferociously hot sauce and an extremely tiny silver spoon). This guy places a single drop of this fiery
substance on whatever kind of food you have in front of you and then, in a
booming and commanding voice, orders you to eat it. I am not sure what people remember the
most--Gene's commanding voice or the nuclear heat of "the man". I can only speculate on what combination of
psychological factors make the place so insanely popular. When I was there, I did as I was ordered, of
course. I did not even want to know what
would happen if I refused. A friend of
mine once asked Gene if he had tried the sauce himself. "Of course not", Gene replied,
"do you think I'm crazy?" Now why do I bring this restaurant up? Am I going to compare Gene to Eric's central
planning authority? Not at all. Rather, my point concerns the history
of this place--where a cute gimmick has become a well-known tourist
attraction. Dixie's started out as an auto-repair
shop. Gene, the owner, was also the
main mechanic. To make a little extra
money his wife would bring in sweet potato pies and sell them to customers. The pies were popular and so Gene's wife
starting bring in more kinds of food--like barbeque. Readers will guess what happened next: soon
the food was bringing in more money than the auto-repair. Cars and equipment were taken out of one part
of the shop to make room for a little lunch counter. After a while the whole place became the
restaurant it is now. And the mechanic,
Gene, came up with his little show in order to have something to do. Such unforseeable transformations of production
units will also take place in the gift economy.
Will these production units need to petition a bunch of
bureaucrats (whether local or national) for permission to change from fixing
cars to serving food? Why should this
be necessary? Can't these
decisions be made by the people directly involved in connection with the community
where they live and work? But if permission from central planners
is not necessary to shift from axle grease to pork fat--then when
does it become necessary? For
example: if you and your friends want to build wings for large aircraft--how
would you make this happen? You would
need to find and hook up with some outfit that builds large planes. And you would need to have connections and
arrangements with lots of producers and suppliers of good and services. And you would need the help of a lot of
people with experience and skill. And
you would need to establish a track record and a reputation. The groups of people who build the big planes
would need to know you are reliable, and so forth. Does any of this require a hierarchical
centralized planning agency that controls the entire economy? No. It does not. So why would an extra layer of bureaucracy be
necessary? Who is the ultimate authority? Eric: > with central planning, decisions are made
within a formal > structure, in the context of social
ownership, and there > is a mechanism for making a final decision
and executing > it, rather than just hoping that everyone
doing what they > want will result in a positive outcome. Both Eric and I see production in future
classless society as being under social ownership and control. Our difference concerns whether this
ownership and control requires formal structures and mechanisms that can
force workers to take actions that go against "what they
want". This is the heart of the matter. Will workers be conscious and highly motivated? Or will workers be lazy and ignorant and need
to be given a swift kick in the rear and have a carrot dangled in front of
their nose--until the end of time? Who tells a great artist what he can draw? People may, of course, make suggestions or
requests--but the authority of the artist is final. Of course in capitalist society, there is an
additional constraint: the artist may be faced with the choice of obeying the demand
of the market or starving. In
classless society there may be constraints or factors of a different kind: like
social status or the respect, appreciation and admiration from
friends, neighbors and larger audiences.
But who makes the final decision? Co-workers, friends, neighbors, various
communities of people, other producers of similar products, consumers, fans,
everyone affected in one way or another--all will have some interest (large or
small) in what the worker does--and the worker will weigh all these
opinions--but how will this weighing process work? Who determines that such-and-such expert gets
greater weight than the lady on the other side of the globe who wrote a comment
on the topic in her blog? Will some
central authority tabulate and count up votes? Or will the worker decide what she or he
does? Dialectics (a word I usually avoid because it is
so often misused by bullshit artists) tells us that the basis of change,
development and motion is always internal.
And this suggests that the ultimate authority concerning a
workers' actions will also be internal: there will be no authority
higher than his or her conscience and consciousness. Notes for Appendix C [Note
C-1] Lenin in "State and
Revolution": > We are not
utopians, and do not deny the possibility and > persons, or the need to
suppress such excesses. But, in > the first place, no special
apparatus of suppression is > needed for this; this will
be done by the armed people > itself […]" [Note C-2]
"Labor-money and socialist planning", parts 1, 2 and 3 > Thus the problem of factories producing the
wrong > assortment of products, or using wasteful
production > methods, stemmed from the class structure
of Soviet > society, from the fact that it was a
state-capitalist > society with an exploiting ruling class,
and not from > some supposed inability of an economy to be
planned > in physical terms. No plan could specify
every last > detail of production, nor would it be
desirable for such > a thing to occur: it would squash the
initiative of > enterprises at the base, and their ability
to innovate.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pof-300/message/1946
[Note C-4]
"Joseph's Islands", see:
http://Leninism.org/stream/95/cRed-80.htm
For a short summary of the article above, see: "How the masses would oppose a return to
capitalism" [Note C-5] "crushing corruption", see the related passage
from:
http://Struggle.net/alds/part_7.htm
> In
the course of biological evolution the gene pools of > most
animal species underwent a process of selection for > a
strong aversion (and repugnance) to eating waste matter >
(which caused sickness and disease). This is why, in the > most
literal sense, shit stinks: genes were selected that >
caused the smell of the sulfer compounds to sicken and > disgust
us. > Similarly,
future generations, with their more highly >
evolved senses, will consider the exchange of living >
labor for dead labor--as something that is unnatural > and disgusting--as
a practice that inevitably leads to > wage
slavery (ie: a form of enslavement of human labor and >
human beings). If labor is to be truely autonomous--then > it
must be controlled by the inner compass and conscience > of each laborer rather than by any form of external carrot >
or stick. <> |
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Cargo-Cult Leninism vs. Information War
Is it Dead or Alive? The question that we cannot escape concerns the degeneration of the Soviet and Chinese revolutions of 1917 and 1949. If these revolutions appeared to be successful and then degenerated -- does this mean that future attempts at establishing workers' rule will inevitably suffer the same fate? |
Comments from readers Alex and Paul |
What Does Victory Look Like? A chart comparing the "dictatorship of the proletariat" (embryonic vs. with immune system) across 8 dimensions |
Who will control the gift economy? • Does planning require a central authority? • Do we need a single plan for the entire economy? • Will we use carrots and sticks -- or our internal compass? • Who is the ultimate authority? |
Ben answers three of Eric's questions • Finding Marx's endorsement on a piece of toast • One party to rule them all? |
the Working Class • We need mass democracy Real organization cannot be built on a foundation of sand • The Media Weapon community (and POF email lists) • more from Ben Seattle |