Reply to a cargo-cult Leninist:

Powerful Agitation Requires

Confronting the Crisis of Theory

 

Ben Seattle, January 26, 2008

 

Contents:

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1. Intro: powerful agitation requires a marriage

    between our current struggles and our future goal

2. The politics of workers' rule

    Many independent organizations will exist

3. The proposal to rename the communist movement

4. The struggle to build a party: community, political

    transparency and confronting the crisis of theory

5. Economics in the transition period: and the

    struggle of the working class to exercise control

6. The struggle for integrity:

    The issue is line, not author

 

1. Intro: powerful agitation

requires a marriage

between our current struggles

and our future goal

 

In November 2007 I posted a criticism [1] of an article by Joseph Green on "socialist health care" [2].  I said that the article surrendered to the usual mythology which equates working class rule with the rule of a single organization that has a monopoly of power and suppresses its opponents.  I said that such a surrender greatly weakens the agitation.  I said that we need a system of agitation which not only encourages various struggles for partial demands (such as universal health care) but which also makes clear that the root of all the problems of our society is the class rule of the largest capitalists (ie: the bourgeoisie) -- and that we must overthrow this system of bourgeois
rule
and replace it with a system of workers' rule that will be better in every way.

 

I also asserted that, for the sake of clarity, we must make clear that workers will have the fundamental democratic rights of speech and organization after bourgeois rule is overthrown.  And I also supported a proposal by a group of revolutionary activists in Samara, Russia to rename the goal of our movement from "socialism" and "communism" to something new--in a way that was analogous to Lenin's proposal to change the name of the revolutionary movement from "social-democracy" to "communism" after the great betrayal of 1914 (ie: when nearly all the social-democratic parties supported the mutual slaughter of worker by worker known as the first world war) since the betrayal of the communist parties of Russia, China and elsewhere was fully comparable to the betrayal of 1914.

 

Joseph Green has responded with a seventeen thousand word article which discusses a number of important topics related to my criticism [3].  The differences between Joseph Green and me concern the nature of politics and economics in the period after bourgeois rule is overthrown.  In the present period, our differences concern how to build a system of powerful agitation and a revolutionary organization which is deserving of the respect and loyalty of the working class.

 

In addition to this, Joseph, in his reply, also repeatedly describes, at great length, political views which he believes that I hold.  The great majority of Joseph's descriptions of my views are not accurate -- and this kind of inaccuracy (plus the length of Joseph's reply) makes it difficult for readers to follow our exchange.  However, political exchanges concerning important principles can be highly valuable, even if they contain many inaccuracies.  It is my intent to summarize the important principles which are being discussed and to reply to Joseph in a way that is accurate, concise, calm -- and focused on the principles that are decisive to our movement.

 

We should keep in mind that the exchanges between Joseph and me are not for the purpose of convicting either of us of thought crimes.  Rather, our focus must be on what actions, and what principles, are decisive in creating a system of powerful agitation and an organization with the ability to unite the working class and lead it to victory.

 

2. The politics of workers' rule:

Many independent organizations will exist

 

The main criticism that I made of Joseph's article concerned a problem in a single sentence, where Joseph describes how workers will run society after bourgeois rule is overthrown.  Here it is again:

 

The government and politics won't be run by a rich elite,

but by the working class, through its own political party and

through mass organizations of the entire working population.

 

The problem with this sentence, I noted, is that it will be understood by many (if not most) readers as describing the kind of political system that existed in the former Soviet Union or that exists today in China: where a _single party_ has a monopoly of power and suppresses all organized opposition--and where workers do not have the fundamental democratic rights of speech and organization.

 

The governments in the former Soviet Union and today's China are widely described and popularly known as "communist" and their flags feature the hammer and sickle icon--the identical icon that appears on the cover of the journal of the "Communist Voice Organization" where Joseph's article appeared.

 

So it would be important, and necessary, for agitation (especially from an organization that describes itself as communist and is festooned with the symbol of the repressive Soviet and Chinese regimes--and which favorably describes a single-party system of government as the alternative to the current system of bourgeois rule) to make clear to readers that, when society is run by the working class -- everyone will have the fundamental democratic rights of _speech_ and _organization_ -- and the political life of society will be characterized by a very large number of political organizations which will be _independent_ of one another.

 

This is what Joseph's article fails to do.

 

Furthermore, any readers of the article who dig a little deeper and look at the other articles by the Communist Voice Organization (CVO) -- will also fail to find _any_ clarification whatsoever concerning whether:

 

(1) workers will have the fundamental democratic

      rights of speech and organization

(2) there will be a distinction in principle

      between the workers' state and workers'

      political parties

 

Empty Words

 

Joseph's article (and other CVO articles) _do_ say that "socialism" will be different from what existed (or exists) in the Soviet Union (or China) -- but the differences are explained by the use of empty words and meaningless phrases rather than more concretely in terms of (1) democratic rights or (2) a political system featuring a large number of organizations which are independent rather than being under the thumb of a single ruling party.

 

Instead of confronting the key ideological weapons that the bourgeoisie aims against the concept of workers' rule (ie: that any attempt to replace bourgeois rule can supposedly only create a police state with low productivity) Joseph contrasts socialism to capitalism by means of largely meaningless phrases like "a new way of life for the entire population" (ie: phrases that we have heard a thousand times from the Soviet Union, China and even North Korea) that promote a lot of cynicism [4].

many different possibilities

 

In order to illustrate what is wrong with Joseph's description of "socialism" as the rule of a single party (and a system of subordinate "mass organizations" to which everyone belongs and which are controlled by the ruling party) I have created a chart (see above) illustrating four kinds of scenarios for workers' parties following the overthrow of bourgeois rule.  Many variations are, of course, possible but these basic scenarios are enough to illustrate something of the range of possibilities.

 

Joseph's article describes a police state

 

Joseph's description of the rule of a single party will be seen by many (if not most) readers as corresponding to the 4th scenario -- which is that of a police state such as the former Soviet Union or today's China.

 

That is the basic problem with the description of "socialism" presented in Joseph's article: instead of _challenging_ the dominant view (promoted by both the bourgeoisie and by cargo-cult Leninists) that workers' rule must take the form of the rule of a single party with a monopoly of power -- Joseph's article _surrenders_ to this conception.

 

 
Disagreements would doom workers’ rule

 

Joseph elaborates on this in his lengthy reply to my criticism: The working class would supposedly not be able to run society if there were disagreements serious enough to require more than a single party:

 

You believe it is absurd to imagine that the bulk of the class-conscious workers would unite behind a single party because of all the different things they might disagree on. But, if there are disagreements on what policies a party should advocate, there will be the same disagreements on what policies the government should implement.  If your reasoning were valid, it would be equally absurd to imagine that the working class could rule.

 

Joseph’s argument leaves us with a fantastical picture of workers’ rule as a society without any serious disagreements.  Any activist who accepted this kind of thinking would be unable to defend the goal of workers’ rule (ie: the central goal capable of unifying everything that is healthy in the progressive movement) against the bourgeois ideological offensive which proclaims that “only capitalist society can accommodate a diversity of views”.  Joseph’s views, therefore, represent a formula for leaving activists naked and defenseless on the most important ideological question of our time.

 

 

Joseph admits multiple parties might exist after all

 

Amazingly, only three paragraphs after saying this, Joseph turns around and contradicts himself—and admits that his description of a single-party state may be mistaken.  It is possible, he notes, that the working class will rule through _several_ parties rather than a single party:

 

If workers can actually run the affairs of a country on a class basis, and if this is a stable rule, then it means that they have overcome their divisions and, in some sense, have formed a political party. That's what it means to act as a class on political issues.  This party, or party in a broad sense, might be organized in a better or worse fashion, and might formally be divided into several organizations.

 

Joseph also admits that, if the working class rules through a single party, that this party _might_ allow opposition parties to exist:

 

But even if a single proletarian party maintains the stable support of a majority of the population, this doesn't necessarily mean that other parties, if they haven't risen in revolt against proletarian rule, will be suppressed.

 

So Joseph has admitted that the 1st and 2nd scenarios in my chart are possible.

 

But if Joseph admits that the description of single-party rule that he presents in his article may be mistaken (ie: that it would have been more accurate for Joseph to have added two words and write of the working class ruling through "its own political party or parties") then why does Joseph not agree to present a more accurate formulation in future agitation?  I believe that Joseph should agree to do so.

 

More than this, I believe that Joseph should recognize the need to deal with the 3rd and 4th scenarios in my chart: the workers' party could be captured by the enemies of the working class and there would be a need for an alternative workers' party to replace it.  Furthermore, the working class will need the fundamental democratic rights of speech and organization in order to make this happen so that scenario 3 unfolds rather than scenario 4.  So, in order to have more depth on this question, I believe that Joseph's organization (the CVO) must investigate the relationship between (1) the fundamental democratic rights of speech and organization that workers will have and (2) their ability to effectively control the politics, economy and culture of society after bourgeois rule is overthrown.  The CVO has, so far, totally ignored this question--as if this issue did not exist--or was only being raised by liberals and anarchists.  But the simple truth is that this question is vital to developing an understanding of how the working class will be able to run society, defend its interests and maintain power after it overthrows bourgeois rule.

 

The party vs. the state

 

Joseph also appears to be confused concerning the distinction between the workers' party and the state.  In his lengthy reply to me, he writes:

 

... if there is no ruling party, the state apparatus may find itself independent of outside political control. Thus the possibility exists that the government itself would emerge as the ruling party.

 

 ... the government would not only have its hands on the reins of power, but it would emerge as the only unified, country-wide political force.

 

It is unclear what Joseph is thinking here.  Only a few paragraphs earlier, Joseph admitted that working class rule may take the form of a system involving multiple parties--but Joseph also described these multiple parties as being a single party "in a broad sense".

 

It is not necessarily incorrect, by the way, for Joseph to describe (in the course of a lengthy letter discussing theory) a system of multiple parties as being a single party "in a broad sense".  After all, we sometimes refer to the bourgeois system of parties here in the US as consisting of a single Demopublican party--since both parties serve the same imperialist masters and are loyal to core imperialist values.  In an analogous way, a system of proletarian parties would share core proletarian values.  However, my criticism (that launched this discussion) was of Joseph's article on "socialist health care" and, in the context of that article, Joseph would have created clarity in the minds of readers if he had referred to the possibility of multiple parties as well as a single party.

 

In any event, I think that clarity on the party-state question is necessary.  The state is a machine.  In order to control society the working class must control the state.  It is of secondary importance whether the working class controls the state machine by means of:

 

(1) a single umbrella organization (that has different

     internal sections that cooperate as well as openly

     compete with one another) or by means of

(2) a system of parties which share certain core values

     of decisive interest to the working class

 

since both of these descriptions amount to very similar systems (ie: the 1st and 2nd scenarios in my chart are actually somewhat similar to one another).  The key point here is that the working class must control the state machine.

 

What is important to understand is the distinction in principle between the workers' state and the workers' party (or parties).

 

The state has the power of coercion.  The power of the party, on the other hand, is based on voluntary actions.  This is fundamental.  The state is democratically controlled by the working class and the masses.  The party may, on occasion, hold views that do not correspond to the views of the majority of the working class and masses.  On such occasions, the party will work to raise the consciousness of the working class and masses.  The party works to influence the working class and masses -- and the working class and masses control the state.  The party does not control the state directly except inasmuch as party members are elected by the working class and masses to positions of authority within the state.  But the working class and masses exercise effective control of the state by various means: elections are a key lever of control but there will be other levers also related to mass mobilizations and mass action.

 

Because there will be multiple parties (or, equivalently, a single party with multiple sections) the state will remain, to an extent, contested terrain.  On core questions the various parties that have influence will unite.  On less decisive questions the different parties (or trends within the same party) will conduct open struggle for influence and support among the working class and masses.

 

In the course of the 1917 revolution in Russia the bolshevik party and state were essentially merged.  This action was not correct from the point of view of how workers' rule will function.  On the contrary, such action was an emergency measure taken in desperate circumstances.  They fact that such a measure was necessary helps to make clear that what existed in Russia at the time was not workers' rule as much as it was an embryonic form of the same.

 
Conclusion

 

All of these things are part of taking a serious attitude toward the theoretical questions related to how the working class will rule after bourgeois rule is overthrown.  Some argue that such questions are too abstract to deal with today.  But I believe that I have shown, with the help of Joseph Green, that such questions are a vital part of effective agitation today, in 2008.

 

3. The proposal to rename

the communist movement

 

In my criticism of Joseph's article on "socialism and health care" I advocated a decisive break with reformist and revisionist conceptions of the goal of our movement and, for this purpose, supported the proposal of a group of revolutionary activists in Samara, Russia that we abandon the names "socialism" and "communism" in favor of a new word in a way analogous to how Lenin advocated breaking with the name "social-democracy" as a name for the revolutionary movement of the working class.

 

The group in Samara favored the word "proletarism" as the new name for our movement.  They picked this name because it is consistent with how the historical periods of feudalism and capitalism were named: after the class that ruled during that period.  The proletariat will rule during the transition period, they argued -- so why not call this period proletarism?  That name also has the advantage that, being a derivative from Latin, it would translate more or less directly into other languages (ie: as opposed to a word like "workerism" that would be different in different languages).

 

I was glad to see Joseph, after many years, respond to this proposal.

 

Unfortunately, in more than four thousand words on the topic, Joseph avoided dealing with the arguments that the Samara group advanced for changing the name of our movement.  Is the betrayal of the Soviet and Chinese revisionists on a scale that is comparable to the great betrayal of 1914?  I certainly think so.  Joseph, unfortunately, does not offer any opinion on the matter.  Was Lenin correct to advocate changing the name of our movement in 1914?  I think so.  Joseph's reply did not touch on this question either.

 

But these questions are highly relevant.  The change in 1914 from "social-democracy" to "communism" amounted to recognizing that the old name had become hopelessly compromised and was not capable of being salvaged or redeemed in the eyes of the working class.  The Samara group argues (and I agree) that the words "socialism" and "communism" are, in a similar way, beyond redemption.  So, if recognizing this reality was correct in 1914--then why would it not be correct to do the same thing now, in the 21st century?

 

Instead of dealing with the arguments put forward by the Samara group, Joseph opposed their proposal on the grounds that this group has made a number of errors in practice and theory.  Joseph's argument appears to be that if we support the proposal by this group to change the name of our movement to "proletarism" -- that this would amount to an endorsement of every practical action and theoretical position this group has taken in the course of its existence.

 

I find such logic to be more than a bit strange.  The first principle in struggles over principle is to recognize that the issue is "line, not author".  This slogan (ie: the issue is "line, not author") has emerged in the discussion on Mike Ely's blog [5].  Mike Ely used to be the editor of the newspaper of the RCP, USA.  The intensification of the cult-like culture and atmosphere of this group was finally too much for Mike--and he wrote a series of letters on his blog critical of the RCP.  The response of the RCP (so far) has been to circulate an internal letter which calls Mike a bunch of names.  A copy of this letter got to Mike (who posted it on his blog).  Mike correctly replied that it does not matter if the various names he was called are accurate or not.  The real issue for revolutionaries -- is the content of Mike's criticism in his nine letters.

 

Similarly, the issue for revolutionaries considering the proposal of the Samara group -- is the validity of their arguments for the proposal.  If Lenin was correct to advocate changing a name that was beyond redemption in 1914 -- then why would such a course of action be incorrect today?

 

The errors that the Samara group has made and is still making (ie: sectarianism in practice and various eccentric theoretical views) are essentially irrelevant.  The experience of the Samara group, on the other hand, is highly relevant.  These people were arrested and sent to prison camps because they organized Russian workers in the only way that was possible in a police state (ie: in secret—underground) under the "communist" regime.  The experience of this group stands as total refutation to the apologists of the revisionist regimes who claim that only "counter-revolutionaries" were suppressed in Soviet Russia.  Further, these same people were arrested again—this time by Yeltsin's government after organizing a highly successful action in which hundreds of striking workers shut down the main street of a mid-sized Russian city for several months.  The fact that the leaders of this group were arrested by Yeltsin again demolishes the arguments of the revisionist apologists who would otherwise claim that this group is just a pawn in the hands of the Western imperialists (ie: Yeltsin was allied with the Western imperialists at the time).

 

Joseph has accurately (with a few notable exceptions) criticized the errors of the Samara group.  Part of Joseph's analysis appears to be based on my work (which Joseph quotes) criticizing many of the errors of this group.  But the issue remains: "line, not author".

 

Again:

 

(1) Was Lenin correct to advocate abandoning a name

      beyond redemption in 1914?

(2) Has the betrayal of the Soviet and Chinese revisionists

      been on a scale comparable to the great betrayal of 1914?

(3) If Lenin was correct to advocate changing a name that

      was beyond redemption in 1914 -- then why would such a

      course of action be incorrect today?

 

It is of course possible (even if highly unlikely) that Joseph may support the proposal to change the name of our movement but is in favor of another name.  If so--then of course Joseph could suggest a name that he believes would be more suitable.  But I doubt this will happen.

 

I have no doubt that Joseph is capable of writing four thousand, or forty thousand, or four hundred thousand words on this (or any other) topic.  What is unclear is whether Joseph will answer these questions.

 

Experience shows that Joseph asks questions.  He rarely answers them.

 

4. The struggle to build a party:

open community, political transparency

and confronting the crisis of theory

 

Joseph, in his reply to me, raises this topic amid a shower of accusations that I am supposedly opposed to building the revolutionary party of the working class.

 

Joseph, in his actions, is working to build such a party.  So am I.

 

Joseph and I, however, have different conceptions of what this party will be like and how it will be built.

 

A revolutionary party of the working class will mobilize the workers to defend their own material interest in many kinds of struggles.  It will create a system of agitation for this purpose.  I think that Joseph and I are agreed on this much.

 

My view is that building a genuinely revolutionary party also requires something more:

 

(1) building an open community of supporters

(2) a commitment to political transparency

(3) a willingness to confront the "crisis of theory"

      that makes it extremely difficult for even the

      most dedicated and militant revolutionary activists

      to understand how society will function when it

      is run by the working class.

 

I have written, in many places, on these topics, including "Cargo-Cult Leninism vs. Political Transparency" [6].

 

Joseph and the CVO, it would appear, oppose this orientation.  Any readers who may doubt me, for example, on the CVO's commitment to political transparency--can verify this for themselves: email the editor of the CVO journal and ask them to give an explanation for why they refused to oppose, in print, the US imperialist bombing campaign during the Balkan war.  The US military actions in the Balkans were used, among other purposes, to help prepare public opinion and pave the way for further US imperialist actions -- such as the invasion of Iraq.  It is clear to me that it was a mistake for the CVO to refuse to oppose the bombing campaign.  But they have neither admitted their mistake nor explained the reason for it.  Instead they give doubletalk of various kinds (ie: they disagreed with US diplomatic actions and ambitions in the Balkans but took no stand to oppose the bombing itself).  If any reader can find out why the CVO refused to oppose the bombing -- please let me know.

 

In the meantime, it is clear to me, and a good many others, that a genuinely revolutionary organization, or party, would be more open with its agenda and its politics.

 

I have also written, in various places, about the central task that will unite revolutionary activists: the creation of a revolutionary news service that will offer comprehensive news, analysis and discussion from the perspective of the material interest of the working class and which will also provide a platform for the struggle of trends.

 

Joseph and the CVO, in spite of their many errors, are doing a lot of good work.  I believe their work will assist in various ways the struggle of the working class to build its genuinely revolutionary party.  This party may, at times, take the form of a system of parties -- or it may take the form of a single party with different internal sections which cooperate on core issues but publicly oppose one another on other issues.  I believe that Joseph and the CVO oppose this conception of a revolutionary party in favor of a party that is more monolithic and speaks with a single, authoritative voice.

 

Part of the work to build a party, it is clear to me, is to work to better understand the kinds of principles which must guide this party and guide its organization.  I have written on these topics in a way that I have tried to make calm and clear and accessible to readers.  I would like to see Joseph and the CVO make an effort to do the same.  For example, if they support the idea of a monolithic revolutionary organization that speaks with a single voice (as it appears they do) then it would be helpful if they were to explain why they think this is best.  And it would also be helpful if they were to recognize that honest and sincere activists may disagree with them--and cut down on the kind of name-calling and word-twisting that reduces readership and audience.  These are important topics essential to building the kind of genuinely revolutionary organization which the working class needs.  We want activists to be interested in these topics and to find our discussion of the principles that matter to be concise, calm and clear.

 

Our actions show what is in our hearts.  Let Joseph show the depth of his commitment to building the revolutionary party of the working class by means of supporting open, clear discussion of the fundamental principles that must guide this party.

 


5. Economics in the transition period

and the struggle of the working class

to exercise control

 

Any attempt by the working class to run society will succeed or fail on the basis of its ability to "deliver the goods".  The working class and masses will need food, clothing, shelter, transportation, electricity, health care and culture.  If the workers' state is unable to deliver these things--then large sections of the working class and masses will conclude that the bourgeoisie ran things better.  I described how this would work in part 5 of the anarcho-leninist debate on the state [7]:

 

the bourgeoisie would simply move in and pick up the pieces. "We may be corrupt", they would tell the masses, "we may steal you blind", they would say, "but at least we know how to run things".  And the boys would be back in town.

 

We need, today, at least a general understanding of how the working class will be able to run the economy and provide for the needs of the masses--in a way that will be _better_ than what the bourgeoisie can do.

 

We don't need to have this understanding in order to draw up detailed blueprints for how we will run things in the future (any attempt to do such a thing would be both foolish and impossible) but for another reason: the historical experiences of the Russian and Chinese revolutions have created so much confusion and uncertainty concerning how the working class would run a modern economy--that the predominant idea today is that any attempt to replace the capitalist system is doomed to failure.

 

We need confidence in a bright future

 

In order for a revolutionary movement to emerge and become powerful--hundreds of thousands of activists must have confidence that something better than capitalism is not only possible--but inevitable.

 

So we must, for this reason, tackle the existing conceptions of how the working class will run a modern economy.  Again: we have no interest in or need for detailed blueprints--we have a need to understand, in a realistic way, only the most general principles--so that we can sweep away the existing misconceptions and build the confidence necessary for a revolutionary movement that can defend the idea of workers’ rule against the immense weight of the bourgeois ideological offensive against the goal of workers’ rule (the most important idea of the 21st century).

 

Central Planning is no magic solution

 

Today the predominant idea is that the working class would attempt to run things by means of what is often called a "command economy" in which central planners will issue directives to factories and other producing units concerning what goods and services to create and distribute.  This appears to be Joseph's conception also (although he usually speaks of "social planning", "overall planning" or a "general plan" or even "conscious control" when he means central planning).

 

However, we need to be careful not to consider central planning to be some kind of magic solution that will solve all problems.  Central planning is a necessary tool for some kinds of problems but is incapable of solving others.

 

Central planning plays an important role today in all capitalist economies (for example the role in credit and finance played by central banks--or the highly efficient and centralized systems used to build cars and planes by Toyota and Boeing).  But central planning also has important limits.  Any attempt to run an entire modern, complex economy on the basis of a central plan would result in fiasco.  The central planning bottleneck would never have the ability to anticipate or respond to the many millions and billions of adjustments and changes of course that countless small producing units will need to make in order to deal with rapidly changing conditions.

 

So any modern economy, whether it is run by the bourgeoisie or the working class, will make use of some amount of centralized planning--but centralized planning can never be used to run an entire modern, complex economy.

 

So, in understanding how the working class will run the economy--we need to think "outside the box" of central planning--and focus on the larger issues.

 

There are two large issues to consider.

 

1) The working class will inherit a commodity economy

 

First, the working class, after it overthrows the system of bourgeois rule, will inherit an economy based on commodity production.

 

A commodity is anything created for the purpose of sale or exchange.  An economy based on commodity production is an economy which is dependent on the circulation of capital.

 

The workers’ state, as it emerges, will not simply wipe out the existing economy and reorganize everything from scratch.  Rather it will expropriate the largest corporations and run these corporations itself.  These expropriations may be initiated by workers at the companies who take them over--or they may be initiated by the workers’ state--or they may represent various combinations of both.  But the expropriated corporations will in many cases continue to be run in ways similar to how they ran before--in the sense that money and money accounting is likely to be used in many ways for some time.  And the products and services which are produced will, in most cases, continue to be exchanged for money (ie: they will still be commodities).  And most workers will continue to exchange their labor for wages (ie: their labor will be a commodity).

 

So, in many ways, the expropriated corporations will still be based on commodity production and will be subject to what are known as "the laws of commodity production" [8].  The laws of commodity production are also sometimes called the "laws of the market" or "market forces".  Adam Smith called these laws the "invisible hand".  Joseph has called them the "iron hand".

 

Joseph appears to argue that if the workers’ state expropriates these corporations and runs them all according to a central plan--that this will somehow free this section of the economy from the laws of commodity production.

 

But if that is Joseph’s argument--it is not a very solid one.

 

The laws of commodity production operate any time that commodities are created.  Now if the workers’ state expropriates the largest corporations and runs them in accord with a big central plan--then it will, in many cases, be violating the laws of commodity production.  For example the workers’ state might say that bread will be sold for less than its market price might be.  Or that unskilled labor will be given a wage higher than its market price would be.  Now this kind of intervention by the state will, in most cases, be a good thing--but it will also carry a cost.  The cost emerges in various ways, including, sometimes, shortages or other ways that things can get out of equilibrium.  And these shortages can also be addressed by further state intervention.  And sometimes the cost emerges in the form of bureaucrats who accumulate so much power that there is a danger of corruption.

 

The workers’ state will decide, based on the experience it accumulates, how much intervention in the "laws of the market" is necessary and useful.  This is another way of saying that the state (guided and controlled, in various ways, by the masses) will decide how much of the activity of the expropriated corporations will be run in accord with a big central plan and how much activity will be organized on the basis of the laws of the market.

 

But I consider both categories of economic activity (ie: a big central plan as well as market-oriented activity) to be a form of state capitalism.

 

Even the activity which is organized in accord with a big central plan is, in my view, a form of capitalist economy because most of the goods and services created by this plan will be exchanged for money (or some kind of money-equivalent) and because workers will still exchange their labor for money-wages.  And there will still be some kind of circuit of capital (even if it is modified from how capital flows under bourgeois rule).

 

Joseph (it appears) argues that nearly 100 percent of the activity of these corporations will be organized on the basis of a big plan.  I do not have much of an estimate myself.  I think it is probably a safe guess that, at least in the first few years, between 10 percent and 90 percent of the activity of the expropriated corporations will be organized on the basis of a central plan and the inverse (ie: between 90 percent and 10 percent) would be organized more along market lines with smaller amounts of state intervention.  A guess that is less safe, but more specific, would be that the center of gravity of the state capitalist sector would, at least for the first few years, be in activity that creates good and services for the market.

 

I made a big chart as part of my work in the anarcho-leninist debate on the state showing my view of how the different sectors of the economy would develop over time.  The chart is not a blueprint (even though many of my political opponents insist on calling it such) but is more of a visual aid to help readers understand the relationship of the three primary sectors of the economy: private capitalist, state capitalist and moneyless gift economy (where everything is given away for free and there is no exchange--no commodity production--and where the laws of commodity production do not apply).
In the chart I estimate, for example, that even twenty years after bourgeois rule is overthrown, the dominant sector of the economy will still be the expropriated corporations and their descendents.  My estimates, of course, could easily be way off.  They are really more guesses than estimates (many of these things can only be guessed at this time).  So what I say might take 20 years--might take far less--or far more.  But the chart is useful even if the estimates are based on wild guesses -- because the chart shows that there will be, in effect, two distinct waves of expropriation--with the first wave (from private capitalism to state capitalism) taking place relatively quickly and the second wave (to the moneyless gift economy) taking more time.

 

In my chart both sections of the state capitalist sector (ie: the activity based on central planning and the activity based more on production for the market) are colored blue.  The differences between these two sections, in my view, are minor compared to their similarities.  The big question here is not the distinction between (1) the parts of the state-capitalist sector that are organized on the basis of a big central plan and (2) the parts of this sector that are organized on the basis of producing for the market.  Much more fundamental is the question of who controls the state capitalist sector in the first place?

 

2) Who controls the state capitalist sector?

 

The state-capitalist sector will be controlled by the state.  The working class and masses will control the state.

 

Everything comes down to the question of who controls the state.

 

Joseph argues that the state capitalist sector which I believe will dominate the early period of working class rule will be “Stalinist state-capitalism”.  Joseph is overlooking the question of who controls the state.  Under Stalin the working class did not control the state.  Under working class rule, however, the working class will control the state.

 

This little detail that Joseph overlooks makes all the difference in the world.

 

How will the working class control the state?  Will it be through one big party?  Will it be through a system of parties?  Maybe.  But, more fundamentally, the working class will rule because it will be able to self-organize.  We cannot predict the exact organizational forms the working class will use.  These forms will depend on the conditions and history of struggle in each country where the working class comes to power.  What we can say—is that the self-organization will be possible because workers will have the fundamental democratic rights of speech and organization.

 

Contested Terrain

 

The working class will use the rights of speech and organization as weapons of immense power to defeat the incompetence, hypocrisy and corruption that will inevitably emerge even within the workers’ state.  Joseph fails to understand this and argues that the state-capitalist sector of the economy that I describe would be dominated by bureaucrats and petty tyrants:

You describe the state sector as "state capitalist economy". It will still use money and commodity production. But more than that, you regard that it will be dominated by "state-appointed bureaucrats" who do pretty much as they please, independent of the working class. You say that workers might be able to run some of the state corporations, but you regard that, overall, this sector is the realm of state bureaucracy.

 

Astute readers will note that any time Joseph uses the phrases “you regard” or “you believe” or “you view” or “your reasoning is” – what follows will usually be a misrepresentation of my views.

 

The state-appointed bureaucrats will not be able to "do pretty much as they please, independent of the working class". The state-capitalist sector will be a battleground of sorts.  One tendency would be for state appointed bureaucrats to dominate everything. But this will be countered by the opposite tendency: for the workers (both within an enterprise and in society at large) to assert their control over the various enterprises. In some situations one tendency might come out on top, and in other circumstances the other tendency will win. Often what might emerge are partial victories for each side. But the main thing to keep in mind is that as long as the enterprise is based on commodity production -- it will tend to be a field of struggle in which the playing field is tilted against the workers and a lot of energy will be necessary to keep things from getting out of hand. This is why the gift economy (where there are no commodities and the laws of commodity production have lost their power) is the only fundamental way out.

 

Joseph’s secret plan

 

Joseph, by the way, argues that working class rule will have a transitional economy that will have something new and different from the state-capitalist sector that I have described in my work.  However, after announcing this with great fanfare, Joseph does not tell us what will be new and different.  Instead Joseph points us to a collection of articles at the CVO website [9] that will supposedly tell us.

 

This is typical Joseph, who can write lengthy articles (as if he were paid by the word) without really saying anything other than to show readers how smart and knowledgeable he is.  I have looked at Joseph’s articles on the transitional economy in years past as he wrote them.  I do not remember anything that was new that Joseph described and I believe the reason for this is that there is nothing there.  It is all a shell game.  “Go here to get the answer.”  And when you go there--you find another signpost telling you to go somewhere else … until you give up and realize there is nothing there.

 

If Joseph could tell us what was new and different in his conception of a transitional economy he would have summarized it in his seventeen thousand word reply to me instead of wasting his (and our) time with criticisms of insignificant and irrelevant details of the work a small group in Samara.  The best that Joseph has come up with is to say [10]:

 

… the working population as a whole must be increasingly involved in directing production and dealing with all the common concerns of society as a whole. … Step by step, the working class must learn how to control the economy, both as an overall whole and workplace by workplace. This refers both to workers learning how to administer their own workplace, and learning how to unite in large regions and on a countrywide basis to give overall direction to the economy.

 

But such talk is empty coming from someone who refuses to recognize that the working class will be able to self-organize on the basis of the fundamental democratic rights of speech and organization.  It is because the workers will be able to self-organize that they will be able to step by step become increasingly involved in directing and dealing and controlling and learning and administering and uniting and giving overall direction and everything else under the sun.

 

Joseph vs. the gift economy

 

Joseph has been on a rampage against the idea of the gift economy as the economic foundation of a classless society ever since I first described it in 1995.  The idea of an economy and a society that runs just fine without any need whatsoever for a central authority that tells everyone what to do—just seemed so unnatural to Joseph that he declared that it was really just a form of capitalism.  It was a peculiar kind of capitalism—with no capital, no money, no wages, no trade or exchange—where everything was created and given away for free with no strings attached other than the expectation that what was given away would be used wisely.  But it must be capitalism, Joseph thundered—because it had no central authority.  Instead, each individual was guided—by the simple authority of their conscience and consciousness—to create whatever they believed was best for themselves and society.  As my reward for concluding that such an economy represented the destiny of humankind—Joseph called me a “neo-conservative” and his partner, Frank, claimed I was an anarchist.

 

 

Joseph retreats with his tail between his legs

 

Joseph has silently retreated from the most stupid of the arguments he made in 1995.  Joseph no longer claims that the moneyless economy must be a form of capitalism simply because it is not guided by a supreme and all-wise central authority.  It is likely that Joseph eventually realized that this argument relied on nothing but the emotions of attachment to a central authority rather than any understanding of the laws of commodity production.  Unfortunately, rather than admitting that he was mistaken when he announced, with blasts from ten thousand trumpets, that I was making an argument for “eternal capitalism” [11] — Joseph has simply abandoned his previous absurdity and cut his losses—and now argues that the self-organizing moneyless economy simply would not work very well.

 

Joseph now offers five arguments why the moneyless economy would not work:

 

(1) Terrifying Toxins

 

Joseph argues that without a central authority the moneyless economy would not be able to ban environmental toxins:

 

You gave an example of your views by referring to what would happen

if society had to make a choice between two products, one which was easy

to produce but poisonous, and the other which was harder to produce but

was safe. It turned out that it was impossible, in cooperative anarchy,

to altogether stop the production of the poison. You saw the problem as

one of what proportion in which to produce the products, and said this

would be settled by how many consumers wanted to buy each product, how

many factories wanted to produce each product, etc.

 

Before replying—I should note that in this argument Joseph talks of consumers buying products.  No one would or could buy anything in the moneyless economy—because nothing is for sale and everything is given away for free.  Joseph may have forgotten, as he wrote this sentence, that he is no longer claiming that the moneyless economy is a form of capitalism.  Or maybe this is an error that Joseph made out of habit (kind of like how Dr. Strangelove’s hand would sometimes reflexively give the nazi salute).

 

Of course, if we are discussing the period during which the workers’ state still exists—then the state itself, as a representative of the will of the masses, could take action by passing a law or regulation.  But if we are discussing the period after the workers’ state has withered away—then there will be no central authority with the ability to create laws enforced by armed bodies of men.  In this situation we can ask ourselves:  How will a society with no central authority—where nearly all wealth is created by the self-organizing moneyless economy—prevent the production of environmental toxins?

 

I explained how this would work at length during my original debate with Joseph in 1995.  If it was really necessary to stop production of the toxin altogether—and if some production unit consisting of volunteer workers failed to understand this and continued to produce it—then people in society at large (as well as other producing units) would have the ability to apply as much pressure as would be necessary to stop production of the toxin.  Media campaigns would mobilize public opinion.  The volunteers who worked to create the toxin would feel compelled to answer to public opinion.  If more pressure was necessary, the producing units which supplied raw materials to the unit that manufactured toxins could threaten to cut off supplies.  And if the supplier units refused to take action—then they also could be targeted and the struggle would escalate.  If the toxin was really so bad that it should not be produced at all—then people in society would have a thousand ways to use their words and actions to stop production of the toxin.

 

On the basis of self-organization, there would be many independent groups which would investigate and monitor the production, distribution and proper disposal or recycling of toxins.  Some of these groups would have great authority (not in the formal sense of having official status given by a central point of control—but rather the authority that comes from reputation and the development of conscious public opinion) and these groups would likely play a decisive role in the scenario I have outlined above.

 

(2) The Threat of Turmoil

 

When I explained, in 1995, how workers in a society without a central authority would be able to take whatever action was necessary in order to stop production of a dangerous environmental toxin—Joseph seized on this to claim that the strongest and most severe actions would become “routine” and, as a result, there would be so much turmoil in society that the trains would not run on time.  Joseph recycles this argument below:

 

My article of 1995 on your "mailed fist" excerpted a number of your enthusiastic descriptions of the war-like trials of strength that would be a routine affair under cooperative anarchy. For example, if two factories disagreed with one another on something, such as the proper environmental protection measures, what would they do? You wrote that the workers of one factory would "stage a *labor action* (possibly similar to a strike or slowdown or at least a dampening of enthusiasm) in order to *put pressure on the rest of the workers* to rethink their positions." So in capitalism, workers strike against the bosses, but in the gift economy, they will strike against other workers. And if the strike didn't work, they would look to shut down the offending factory through having its suppliers deny it raw materials. And if that doesn't work, they would proceed to "strikes, slowdowns, boycotts", with each side "targeting or aiding their *allies and enemies".