Saturday • 19-May-2007 • 9:37 pm • # 12600 • 13-63D-IW [com] poll response: ••• Communism is • the inevitable peaceful and abundant future of humankind ••• The Soviet Union was • an oppressive, exploitative, class-divided society that pretended to be socialist or communist ••• socialism exists (or existed) in • China ••• Genuine socialism is • the rule of society by the working class ••• modern capitalist societies are ruled by • the rich (ie: the wealthy class, the bourgeoisie) ••• The FAQ • I have read the FAQ

Saturday • 19-May-2007 • 3:45 pm • # 12599 • 8-20S-IL [org] poll response: ••• Communism is • other ••• The Soviet Union was • an oppressive, exploitative, class-divided society that pretended to be socialist or communist ••• socialism exists (or existed) in • other ••• Genuine socialism is • other ••• modern capitalist societies are ruled by • other

food for thought Saturday • 19-May-2007 • 10:06 am • # 12598 • 76-0U-JD [org] • • 21 • • poll response: ••• Communism is • the inevitable peaceful and abundant future of humankind ••• The Soviet Union was • an oppressive, exploitative, class-divided society that pretended to be socialist or communist ••• socialism exists (or existed) in • has never existed ••• Genuine socialism is • other ••• modern capitalist societies are ruled by • the rich (ie: the wealthy class, the bourgeoisie) Perhaps the best way to overcome the ill named crisis of theory would be, a more genuine attempt at practical political theory and an attempt to provide a theory of political economy that would replace the political economy provided by Capitalism (as propagated by the WTO, World Bank, IMF, and by the G-8. It is the test of any political movement that it be able to provide a plausible alternative to the order it is seeking to change. I am not a follower of Leninism; however his strength was that he provided an alternative to Monarchy and Capitalism (though his alternative was as flawed as Capitalism and Feudalism were). The best way for a new theory of political economy to evolve is through debate and an exchange of ideas (for which you seem to have provided a forum, however perhaps the angst which is apparent in this site is not appropriate for such a noble endeavor).

The History of the Universe The self-organization of matter from the big bang to the future ... From the dawn of life to the self-organizing moneyless economy

Saturday • 19-May-2007 • 3:33 am • # 12597 • 17-16K-CJ [com] Konstantinos • Patras, Greece • 24 • unemployed • poll response: ••• Communism is • other ••• The Soviet Union was • an oppressive, exploitative, class-divided society that pretended to be socialist or communist ••• socialism exists (or existed) in • former Yugoslavia, Sweden ••• Genuine socialism is • the rule of society by the working class ••• modern capitalist societies are ruled by • the rich (ie: the wealthy class, the bourgeoisie) Communism that existed was a system based not on principles or rules but on peoples decisions and this is why i think declined. The rulers did not respect the principles

Saturday • 19-May-2007 • 1:25 am • # 12596 • 16-60P-NC [com] poll response: ••• Communism is • the inevitable peaceful and abundant future of humankind ••• The Soviet Union was • not sure ••• socialism exists (or existed) in • former Soviet Union, China, North Korea, former Yugoslavia, Sweden ••• Genuine socialism is • the rule of society by a corrupt bureaucracy ••• modern capitalist societies are ruled by • the rich (ie: the wealthy class, the bourgeoisie) ••• The FAQ • I have read the FAQ

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Friday • 18-May-2007 • 7:19 pm • # 12595 • 36-13I-JD [org] poll response: ••• Communism is • not sure ••• The Soviet Union was • an oppressive, exploitative, class-divided society that pretended to be socialist or communist ••• socialism exists (or existed) in • former Yugoslavia, Sweden ••• Genuine socialism is • the rule of society by the working class ••• modern capitalist societies are ruled by • the rich (ie: the wealthy class, the bourgeoisie)

Friday • 18-May-2007 • 10:33 am • # 12594 • 92-11G-SD [org] I • Istanbul, Turkey • 18 • student • poll response: ••• Communism is • the inevitable peaceful and abundant future of humankind ••• The Soviet Union was • an oppressive, exploitative, class-divided society that pretended to be socialist or communist ••• socialism exists (or existed) in • Cuba ••• Genuine socialism is • the rule of society by a corrupt bureaucracy ••• modern capitalist societies are ruled by • the rich (ie: the wealthy class, the bourgeoisie) ••• The FAQ • I don't need to read no stinkin' FAQ

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greek comments Thursday • 17-May-2007 • 5:54 pm • # 12593 • 87-13M-UG [com] spiros • athens, greece • 27 • unemployed • comrades, I come from greece. I by chance visited the site as I wondered who might have that domain. I am very pleased to find this here. As Fukuyama admitted, History hasn't meet it's end. Just 2 comments: a) if somebody take a closer look on MEW he is likely to find that they used socialism and communism nearly as synonims. the sientific definition as posted here is (in my opinion of course)the dictatorship of the proletarians (sorry, I'm not really sure about the english term, that's a translation from greek), b) the dilemas which can be answered in only two ways (in my opinion again) are far away from dialectics. I understand the limitations of a gallop research, but why they should guide us to retreat from the most vital part of our theory?? I will be glad to hear from anyone in spirosboikos @ gmail.com. All the power to the labour councils!!!

Wednesday • 16-May-2007 • 8:15 pm • # 12592 • 10-49D-IW [com] poll response: ••• Communism is • the inevitable peaceful and abundant future of humankind ••• The Soviet Union was • socialist or communist ••• socialism exists (or existed) in • former Yugoslavia, has never existed ••• Genuine socialism is • the rule of society by a corrupt bureaucracy ••• modern capitalist societies are ruled by • the rich (ie: the wealthy class, the bourgeoisie) ••• The FAQ • I don't need to read no stinkin' FAQ

i loce marxism Wednesday • 16-May-2007 • 6:07 pm • # 12591 • 36-45B-LW [com] Carlos • maimi, U.S • 17 • student • poll response: ••• Communism is • the inevitable peaceful and abundant future of humankind ••• The Soviet Union was • an oppressive, exploitative, class-divided society that pretended to be socialist or communist ••• socialism exists (or existed) in • China ••• Genuine socialism is • the rule of society by the working class ••• modern capitalist societies are ruled by • the rich (ie: the wealthy class, the bourgeoisie) ••• The FAQ • I have read the FAQ i enjoy this web site. keep up the good work .

Wednesday • 16-May-2007 • 3:03 pm • # 12590 • 7-0K-JD [org] poll response: ••• Communism is • the inevitable peaceful and abundant future of humankind ••• The Soviet Union was • socialist or communist ••• socialism exists (or existed) in • former Soviet Union, China, Cuba, North Korea, former Yugoslavia ••• Genuine socialism is • the rule of society by the working class ••• modern capitalist societies are ruled by • the rich (ie: the wealthy class, the bourgeoisie) ••• The FAQ • I have read the FAQ

Tuesday • 15-May-2007 • 7:09 pm • # 12588 • 17-57D-TD [com] poll response: ••• Communism is • the inevitable peaceful and abundant future of humankind ••• The Soviet Union was • an oppressive, exploitative, class-divided society that pretended to be socialist or communist ••• socialism exists (or existed) in • has never existed ••• Genuine socialism is • the rule of society by the working class ••• modern capitalist societies are ruled by • the rich (ie: the wealthy class, the bourgeoisie)

Tuesday • 15-May-2007 • 6:46 pm • # 12587 • 54-15R-JD [org] poll response: ••• Communism is • the inevitable peaceful and abundant future of humankind ••• The Soviet Union was • an oppressive, exploitative, class-divided society that pretended to be socialist or communist ••• socialism exists (or existed) in • not sure ••• Genuine socialism is • the rule of society by the working class ••• modern capitalist societies are ruled by • the rich (ie: the wealthy class, the bourgeoisie) ••• The FAQ • I have read the FAQ

Tuesday • 15-May-2007 • 3:21 pm • # 12586 • 9-50H-JW [org] poll response: ••• Communism is • the inevitable peaceful and abundant future of humankind ••• The Soviet Union was • socialist or communist ••• socialism exists (or existed) in • former Soviet Union, China, Cuba, North Korea ••• Genuine socialism is • the rule of society by the working class ••• modern capitalist societies are ruled by • the rich (ie: the wealthy class, the bourgeoisie) ••• The FAQ • I don't need to read no stinkin' FAQ

Monday • 14-May-2007 • 8:54 pm • # 12585 • 56-34F-ZD [org] poll response: ••• Communism is • the inevitable peaceful and abundant future of humankind ••• The Soviet Union was • an oppressive, exploitative, class-divided society that pretended to be socialist or communist ••• socialism exists (or existed) in • former Soviet Union, China, Cuba, North Korea, former Yugoslavia ••• Genuine socialism is • not sure ••• modern capitalist societies are ruled by • everybody, in a democratic way ••• The FAQ • I don't need to read no stinkin' FAQ

Monday • 14-May-2007 • 2:48 pm • # 12584 • 38-20A-OW [] poll response: ••• Communism is • the inevitable peaceful and abundant future of humankind ••• The Soviet Union was • an oppressive, exploitative, class-divided society that pretended to be socialist or communist ••• socialism exists (or existed) in • has never existed ••• Genuine socialism is • the rule of society by the working class ••• modern capitalist societies are ruled by • everybody, in a democratic way ••• The FAQ • I have read the FAQ

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Monday • 14-May-2007 • 8:38 am • # 12583 • 54-33P-VD [com] poll response: ••• Communism is • the inevitable peaceful and abundant future of humankind ••• The Soviet Union was • an oppressive, exploitative, class-divided society that pretended to be socialist or communist ••• socialism exists (or existed) in • Cuba ••• Genuine socialism is • the rule of society by the working class ••• modern capitalist societies are ruled by • the rich (ie: the wealthy class, the bourgeoisie) ••• The FAQ • I don't need to read no stinkin' FAQ

Monday • 14-May-2007 • 2:23 am • # 12582 • 92-26Y-ZW [org] poll response: ••• Communism is • the inevitable peaceful and abundant future of humankind ••• The Soviet Union was • socialist or communist ••• socialism exists (or existed) in • former Soviet Union, China, Cuba, North Korea ••• Genuine socialism is • the rule of society by the working class ••• modern capitalist societies are ruled by • the rich (ie: the wealthy class, the bourgeoisie) ••• The FAQ • I don't need to read no stinkin' FAQ

Communism and human nature The self-organizing moneyless economy of the future will unleash the full potential of human initiative and the striving for happiness     Many who post here argue that communism will never be possible because of "human nature". The essence of this false argument is the belief that a communist society would consist of an all-powerful central government that would tell everybody what to do--and would therefore undermine the creative initiative of individuals and the search for happiness.     • This argument is based on two false assumptions: (1) It assumes that a communist society will look like the former Soviet Union, or the current China, North Korea, etc (ie: corrupt police states with a feudal-style ruling class) (2) It assumes that people will only work in order to own bigger and bigger piles of commodities.     • The truth is that: (1) There will be no government in communist society--people will do what they want without being pushed around by anyone. The development of a corrupt police state or a new ruling class will be prevented by the struggles of the masses who will be armed with the weapon of transparency. (2) In a world of abundance for all no one will have to struggle (or even work) for the necessities of life (which will be a birthright--just like the air we all breathe). People will work on projects of their own choosing because (a) they find the work fun and interesting; (b) they enjoy the work relationships with talented and dedicated co-workers; (c) they want to make the world a better place; or (d) they want social status and recognition. A world of abundance for all where work is fun (and voluntary) will be made possible by a much higher productivity of human labor.     • An example of communist work relationships is provided by the Linux computer operating system--the core of which was created by many thousands of people--all working for free. A 2nd example is the "work" involved when people post to this board. No one gets paid to post here--but people do so--because it is an expression of their principles and convictions.     • Who is in control? Under capitalism (and previous economic systems such as feudalism and slavery) only a small fraction of the population has control over their conditions of work--and the life of society as a whole. Only under genuine communism will the masses control their conditions of work--and the culture, economy and politics of society. • (Ben Seattle • Dec 2003)

Monday • 14-May-2007 • 12:04 am • # 12581 • 16-35Y-OD [org] poll response: ••• Communism is • the inevitable peaceful and abundant future of humankind ••• The Soviet Union was • an oppressive, exploitative, class-divided society that pretended to be socialist or communist ••• socialism exists (or existed) in • has never existed ••• Genuine socialism is • the rule of society by the working class ••• modern capitalist societies are ruled by • the rich (ie: the wealthy class, the bourgeoisie) ••• The FAQ • I don't need to read no stinkin' FAQ

Sunday • 13-May-2007 • 5:05 am • # 12580 • 73-53P-BW [com] poll response: ••• Communism is • a monstrous system of slavery ••• The Soviet Union was • an oppressive, exploitative, class-divided society that pretended to be socialist or communist ••• socialism exists (or existed) in • Sweden ••• Genuine socialism is • the rule of society by a corrupt bureaucracy ••• modern capitalist societies are ruled by • the rich (ie: the wealthy class, the bourgeoisie) ••• The FAQ • I don't need to read no stinkin' FAQ

The Self-Organizing Moneyless Economy     The first scientific speculation on how a communist economy and political system will function in the 21st century. Featuring brief sketches of the organization of political, cultural and economic life in a future where all authority flows from principles that have been distributed universally and are part of everyone's internal compass rather than institutions which are external to the individual and which use one or another form of carrot or stick.     The future communist economy, based on the principle of from each according to his ability, to each according to his need, will not be based on the market, money, capital, commodities or wages (ie: the economy will not be based on exchange or trade of any kind) nor will there exist any kind of supreme central authority telling everyone what to do.     All work and all economic actions will be voluntary (ie: gifts freely given without strings attached--nor expectations of reciprocity). The communist economy will consist of myriad self-organizing assemblies of economic units in competition with one another to most efficiently transform skilled labor and other resources into forms of social wealth serving the the material and cultural needs of the masses. (1995)

Friday • 11-May-2007 • 5:45 pm • # 12579 • 5-38A-CW [org] poll response: ••• Communism is • a monstrous system of slavery ••• The Soviet Union was • an oppressive, exploitative, class-divided society that pretended to be socialist or communist ••• socialism exists (or existed) in • former Soviet Union, China, Cuba ••• Genuine socialism is • other ••• modern capitalist societies are ruled by • everybody, in a democratic way ••• The FAQ • I have read the FAQ

Friday • 11-May-2007 • 6:00 am • # 12578 • 0-53K-BW [org] poll response: ••• Communism is • a monstrous system of slavery ••• The Soviet Union was • an oppressive, exploitative, class-divided society that pretended to be socialist or communist ••• socialism exists (or existed) in • Sweden ••• Genuine socialism is • the rule of society by a corrupt bureaucracy ••• modern capitalist societies are ruled by • the rich (ie: the wealthy class, the bourgeoisie) ••• The FAQ • I don't need to read no stinkin' FAQ

Politics, Economics and the Mass Media when the working class runs the show After the overthrow of bourgeois rule, during the period of transition to a communist economy ...     • Will there be elections?     • The three economic sectors       (private capitalist, state capitalist, gift economy)     • The evolution of the mass media       (commercial media, state media, free media)

Thursday • 10-May-2007 • 11:45 pm • # 12577 • 34-44I-OD [] poll response: ••• Communism is • the inevitable peaceful and abundant future of humankind ••• The Soviet Union was • an oppressive, exploitative, class-divided society that pretended to be socialist or communist ••• socialism exists (or existed) in • other ••• Genuine socialism is • the rule of society by the working class ••• modern capitalist societies are ruled by • the rich (ie: the wealthy class, the bourgeoisie) ••• The FAQ • I don't need to read no stinkin' FAQ

Thursday • 10-May-2007 • 9:11 pm • # 12576 • 19-42R-FK [com] ivica • zadar, croatia • 22 • student • poll response: ••• Communism is • the inevitable peaceful and abundant future of humankind ••• The Soviet Union was • an oppressive, exploitative, class-divided society that pretended to be socialist or communist ••• socialism exists (or existed) in • former Yugoslavia ••• Genuine socialism is • the rule of society by the working class ••• modern capitalist societies are ruled by • the rich (ie: the wealthy class, the bourgeoisie) o bailan todos o bailan nadie

A scenario for the overthrow of bourgeois rule in the U.S. in the middle of the 21st century Here is one way events may unfold ... 1. The digital fire • 2. Electoral victory • 3. Economic retaliation 4. Workers stand firm • 5. Attempted decapitation • 6. Workers' movement resilient 7. Bourgeoisie paralyzed • 8. Workers' victorious • 9. Stable workers' state

Thursday • 10-May-2007 • 12:41 pm • # 12575 • 74-0I-CL [com] Josh • Middlesbrough, England • • • poll response: ••• Communism is • the inevitable peaceful and abundant future of humankind ••• The Soviet Union was • socialist or communist ••• socialism exists (or existed) in • former Soviet Union, China, North Korea, other ••• Genuine socialism is • other ••• modern capitalist societies are ruled by • other

CAPITALISM SUCKS!!! Wednesday • 9-May-2007 • 9:12 pm • # 12574 • 28-2O-TH [] redpunk • somewhere, chile • 21 • • poll response: ••• Communism is • the inevitable peaceful and abundant future of humankind ••• The Soviet Union was • an oppressive, exploitative, class-divided society that pretended to be socialist or communist ••• socialism exists (or existed) in • has never existed ••• Genuine socialism is • the rule of society by the working class ••• modern capitalist societies are ruled by • the rich (ie: the wealthy class, the bourgeoisie) ••• The FAQ • I have read the FAQ you freaking north-capitalist you think that you "democracy" is right cuz you have a high life-standart, you have to live here in the south hemisphere, when the things are difficult and capitalist explotation is huge, THANKS TO YOU! CAPITALISM = EXPLOTATION & DEAD = NAZISM communism rules! allende vive! [my english sucks, i know (and i don't give a f...)]

The Future Transparent Workers' State Will a workers' state be a brutal police state or a machine controlled by workers? Are we paralyzed by fear of violent and brutal repression? Or defiant, courageous and determined to win victory with mass-based information war? • Who's afraid of "red fascism"? • The solution to the crisis of theory • Thermador vs. Transparency • Mass-based information war • Why "censorship by filter" is doomed to fail • Productivity of labor inseparable from revolution in communications • How the bourgeois political machine undermines the independence of the mass oppositional movements

Wednesday • 9-May-2007 • 7:16 pm • # 12573 • 77-49X-CW [org] Will • Raliegh, USA • 15 • High School Student • poll response: ••• Communism is • other ••• The Soviet Union was • an oppressive, exploitative, class-divided society that pretended to be socialist or communist ••• socialism exists (or existed) in • has never existed ••• Genuine socialism is • the rule of society by the working class ••• modern capitalist societies are ruled by • the rich (ie: the wealthy class, the bourgeoisie) ••• The FAQ • I have read the FAQ

Thank you! Tuesday • 8-May-2007 • 10:35 pm • # 12572 • 44-5O-MW [com] Arthur • Oxford, United States • 18 • Student • poll response: ••• Communism is • the inevitable peaceful and abundant future of humankind ••• The Soviet Union was • an oppressive, exploitative, class-divided society that pretended to be socialist or communist ••• socialism exists (or existed) in • has never existed ••• Genuine socialism is • the rule of society by the working class ••• modern capitalist societies are ruled by • the rich (ie: the wealthy class, the bourgeoisie) ••• The FAQ • I have read the FAQ I was so happy to finally see someone whos head wasn't full of bullshit for once! (concerning Communism) I actually clapped at my computer. When people think of communism they think of nazis and russians, they don't think, "All for one and one for all." People in our society just want to screw everyone else over and get "Their piece of the pie." What is wrong with doing your job (Which you chose to do.) and do it to the best of your ability? There's so much capilism propaganda bullshit that's put into our heads and I'm sooo happy to finally see someone else that wants something better for the world. Bravo! Keep it up.

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Tuesday • 8-May-2007 • 4:59 pm • # 12571 • 7-15Y-GL [org] poll response: ••• Communism is • the inevitable peaceful and abundant future of humankind ••• The Soviet Union was • an oppressive, exploitative, class-divided society that pretended to be socialist or communist ••• socialism exists (or existed) in • former Yugoslavia ••• Genuine socialism is • the rule of society by the working class ••• modern capitalist societies are ruled by • everybody, in a democratic way

BS Tuesday • 8-May-2007 • 12:58 pm • # 12570 • 73-33N-PW [com] gordon • altuna, Khazakstan • 22 • gentleman of leisure • poll response: ••• Communism is • a monstrous system of slavery ••• The Soviet Union was • an oppressive, exploitative, class-divided society that pretended to be socialist or communist ••• socialism exists (or existed) in • has never existed ••• Genuine socialism is • other ••• modern capitalist societies are ruled by • everybody, in a democratic way ••• The FAQ • I have read the FAQ Communism is just a horrible system. Socialism is different, and would be great, but will never happen because we are humans, and human nature is to be selfish backstabing bastards. It just will not work. If the workeng class ever were to get in power and start a socialist country, it would fail becuase the working class would want revenge, and leaders would get advantages over everyone else, so it would then become communism, and be like great C.C.C.S. all over again. I also believe that not everyone deserves to have the same amount of stuffs. If you work harder than your neighbor, then you deserve more than your neighbor. I personally do not belive that people wish to work harder than their neighbors, and then only get as much as them. It is unfair. It also leads to no motivations, becuase in a socialist society, everyone needs to work for the betterment of everyone else, and many people only want to work for them selves. If you can find an entire society that can think about others and not only themselves, then go and show the world what a real SOCIALIST society is like

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Tuesday • 8-May-2007 • 12:04 pm • # 12569 • 83-5W-WW [com] poll response: ••• Communism is • other

Tuesday • 8-May-2007 • 10:38 am • # 12568 • 49-30C-WW [com] poll response: ••• Communism is • the inevitable peaceful and abundant future of humankind ••• The Soviet Union was • an oppressive, exploitative, class-divided society that pretended to be socialist or communist ••• socialism exists (or existed) in • has never existed ••• Genuine socialism is • the rule of society by the working class ••• modern capitalist societies are ruled by • the rich (ie: the wealthy class, the bourgeoisie) ••• The FAQ • I don't need to read no stinkin' FAQ

The cyberLeninist Manifesto The principle that "information wants to be free" fits Leninism like a bullet does a rifle in what turns out to be the ultimate nightmare for the bourgeoisie. Leninism, as a continuation of the practical and theoretical work of Karl Marx, had two stages in the period that Lenin was alive. The period from Lenin's death to approximately the present time has represented the third stage of Leninism. Now, as the coming revolution in digital communications promises to link-up class-conscious workers in every country, we are entering the fourth stage. (Oct 1996) Leninism I • (1896-1917) • Building a party that withstood repression and fought emergent social-democracy Leninism II • (1917-1923) • State power under harsh conditions Leninism III • (1924 -- approximately today) • Leninism in the hands of its enemies Leninism IV • (after the fall of the Soviet Union and the emergence of the internet) • Classical Leninism plus "information wants to be free"

Tuesday • 8-May-2007 • 5:48 am • # 12567 • 25-2E-AL [com] poll response: ••• Communism is • a monstrous system of slavery ••• The Soviet Union was • an oppressive, exploitative, class-divided society that pretended to be socialist or communist ••• socialism exists (or existed) in • former Soviet Union, China, Cuba, North Korea, former Yugoslavia ••• Genuine socialism is • the rule of society by a corrupt bureaucracy ••• modern capitalist societies are ruled by • everybody, in a democratic way ••• The FAQ • I don't need to read no stinkin' FAQ

Tuesday • 8-May-2007 • 1:08 am • # 12566 • 57-31G-IH [org] poll response: ••• Communism is • other ••• The Soviet Union was • an oppressive, exploitative, class-divided society that pretended to be socialist or communist ••• socialism exists (or existed) in • former Yugoslavia ••• Genuine socialism is • the rule of society by the working class ••• modern capitalist societies are ruled by • the rich (ie: the wealthy class, the bourgeoisie) ••• The FAQ • I don't need to read no stinkin' FAQ

How to Build the Party of the Future By continuing our political development and harnessing the power of the coming revolution in communications--we can help to lay the foundation for a communist "trend of trends" with the ability to eradicate sectarianism from our ranks, puncture the influence of reformism over a vast audience, capture the imagination of workers in their millions and mobilize our class to ignite a fire that cannot be extinguished     The coming revolution in communications, now in its earliest stages, is already beginning to demonstrate its potential to influence the development and interaction of Marxist (and would-be Marxist) organizations. In the next decade or so, the communications revolution holds promise to completely transform the "left ecosystem" at present consisting predominantly of squabbling sectarian grouplets, craven reformists and the just-plain confused. In place of this will likely emerge a dynamic and powerful system of communist organizations which will both compete and cooperate with one another ... (May 1997, unfinished, deals with principles and history of international communist movement)

"Government" is pointless Monday • 7-May-2007 • 7:36 pm • # 12565 • 83-2M-ZW [org] Amber • Chickamauga, USA • 17 • Mcdonald's worker (lol) • communism, even if just on a communal farm, is a far better choice than any democracy or dictatorship period. if we could be our own government, and give where giving is needed and would be willing to pull our own weight, the world might actually stand a chance. people just need to chill. i suppose im more transcendental than anything.

Whatever You Say Monday • 7-May-2007 • 9:43 am • # 12564 • 79-10F-LW [com] Brandon • Hoover, United States • 22 • stocker • poll response: ••• Communism is • a monstrous system of slavery ••• The Soviet Union was • socialist or communist ••• socialism exists (or existed) in • China ••• Genuine socialism is • the rule of society by the working class ••• modern capitalist societies are ruled by • the rich (ie: the wealthy class, the bourgeoisie) ••• The FAQ • I have read the FAQ Dude, you need to know the deeper significance of this type of dictatorship. It's so scary to imagine of how powerful and ruthless a government can be if it weren't the people to stop it.

1917 was the beta version What are the decisive tasks today to rebuild a communist movement worthy of the name ? 1. working to create a web-based news service without copyright that would be open to all trends 2. focusing discussion on the system of workers' rule as it will exist in modern conditions     (Nov 1997)

Sunday • 6-May-2007 • 11:04 pm • # 12563 • 80-25L-BW [org] poll response: ••• Communism is • a monstrous system of slavery ••• The Soviet Union was • an oppressive, exploitative, class-divided society that pretended to be socialist or communist ••• socialism exists (or existed) in • former Soviet Union, China, Cuba, North Korea ••• Genuine socialism is • the rule of society by a corrupt bureaucracy ••• modern capitalist societies are ruled by • everybody, in a democratic way ••• The FAQ • I don't need to read no stinkin' FAQ

Sunday • 6-May-2007 • 8:50 pm • # 12562 • 1-16I-JD [org] poll response: ••• Communism is • the inevitable peaceful and abundant future of humankind ••• The Soviet Union was • an oppressive, exploitative, class-divided society that pretended to be socialist or communist ••• socialism exists (or existed) in • has never existed ••• Genuine socialism is • the rule of society by the working class ••• modern capitalist societies are ruled by • the rich (ie: the wealthy class, the bourgeoisie) ••• The FAQ • I don't need to read no stinkin' FAQ

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Sunday • 6-May-2007 • 4:47 pm • # 12561 • 10-19R-AN [org] poll response: ••• Communism is • the inevitable peaceful and abundant future of humankind ••• The Soviet Union was • an oppressive, exploitative, class-divided society that pretended to be socialist or communist ••• socialism exists (or existed) in • not sure ••• Genuine socialism is • the rule of society by the working class ••• modern capitalist societies are ruled by • the rich (ie: the wealthy class, the bourgeoisie) ••• The FAQ • I have read the FAQ

Saturday • 5-May-2007 • 2:50 pm • # 12560 • 16-48J-FN [org] poll response: ••• Communism is • the inevitable peaceful and abundant future of humankind ••• The Soviet Union was • an oppressive, exploitative, class-divided society that pretended to be socialist or communist ••• socialism exists (or existed) in • China ••• Genuine socialism is • the rule of society by the working class ••• modern capitalist societies are ruled by • the rich (ie: the wealthy class, the bourgeoisie) ••• The FAQ • I don't need to read no stinkin' FAQ

How will economics, politics and culture work when the working class runs modern society? Working class rule has never existed in a modern, stable society. However it will emerge triumphant in the 21st century. How will a workers' state suppress the former ruling bourgeoisie without also suppressing the independent political life of workers? (Apr 2001)

Saturday • 5-May-2007 • 10:02 am • # 12559 • 33-41O-JD [org] poll response: ••• Communism is • not sure ••• The Soviet Union was • an oppressive, exploitative, class-divided society that pretended to be socialist or communist ••• socialism exists (or existed) in • has never existed ••• Genuine socialism is • the rule of society by the working class ••• modern capitalist societies are ruled by • the rich (ie: the wealthy class, the bourgeoisie) ••• The FAQ • I have read the FAQ

Saturday • 5-May-2007 • 7:38 am • # 12558 • 70-51O-RW [org] poll response: ••• Communism is • not sure ••• The Soviet Union was • an oppressive, exploitative, class-divided society that pretended to be socialist or communist ••• socialism exists (or existed) in • not sure ••• Genuine socialism is • the rule of society by the working class ••• modern capitalist societies are ruled by • the rich (ie: the wealthy class, the bourgeoisie) ••• The FAQ • I have read the FAQ

Seventeen Theses • Includes 9 theses on the Emerging Revolution in Communications and its Significance for the Awakening of Proletarian Political life and Consciousness (a fairly concentrated summary of Ben's views on our tasks in the coming period of transparency and information war) • Includes poll and bulletin board   (July 2001)

Friday • 4-May-2007 • 5:43 pm • # 12557 • 96-31E-OD [org] poll response: ••• Communism is • a monstrous system of slavery ••• The Soviet Union was • socialist or communist ••• Genuine socialism is • the rule of society by a corrupt bureaucracy ••• modern capitalist societies are ruled by • everybody, in a democratic way ••• The FAQ • I don't need to read no stinkin' FAQ

Thursday • 3-May-2007 • 1:34 pm • # 12556 • 78-50H-AW [com] poll response: ••• Communism is • the inevitable peaceful and abundant future of humankind ••• The Soviet Union was • an oppressive, exploitative, class-divided society that pretended to be socialist or communist ••• socialism exists (or existed) in • Sweden, has never existed ••• Genuine socialism is • the rule of society by a corrupt bureaucracy ••• modern capitalist societies are ruled by • everybody, in a democratic way ••• The FAQ • I don't need to read no stinkin' FAQ

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Wednesday • 2-May-2007 • 1:06 pm • # 12555 • 69-4L-YR [] Kay • Glasgow, Scotland • 19 • student • poll response: ••• Communism is • the inevitable peaceful and abundant future of humankind ••• The Soviet Union was • an oppressive, exploitative, class-divided society that pretended to be socialist or communist ••• socialism exists (or existed) in • Cuba, Sweden, other ••• Genuine socialism is • the rule of society by the working class ••• modern capitalist societies are ruled by • the rich (ie: the wealthy class, the bourgeoisie) ••• The FAQ • I don't need to read no stinkin' FAQ

none intersting Tuesday • 1-May-2007 • 9:22 pm • # 12554 • 26-56M-JD [org] meh • near me, yes • old • proletariat • poll response: ••• Communism is • not sure ••• The Soviet Union was • an oppressive, exploitative, class-divided society that pretended to be socialist or communist ••• socialism exists (or existed) in • other ••• Genuine socialism is • the rule of society by the working class ••• modern capitalist societies are ruled by • the rich (ie: the wealthy class, the bourgeoisie) ••• The FAQ • I don't need to read no stinkin' FAQ meh, I am learning, and with knowledge I will succeed...

Finding the Confidence to Build the Future How will the working class keep supply chains running and bourgeois apologists from flooding the airwaves on the morning after bourgeois rule is broken? The crisis of theory is that we don't have a goal that makes any sense. The alternative to resolving the crisis of theory is to restrict our vision to rolling a heavy stone up a hill until the end of time. {Excerpt}   ...   But if we seek a fundamental change to the status quo--we soon run into a formidable obstacle: fundamental change to the status quo is unthinkable.     The progressive movement (even the most serious, militant sections of it) is totally incapable of coming up with any serious alternative to the present system of bourgeois rule. The alternatives we are offered are only fit for people with the mentality of children. The militant "marxists" offer us an alternative that consists, essentially, of a police state. The militant anarchists offer us only childish daydreams. This failure of the progressive movement to offer a serious alternative to the rule of the rich is called the "crisis of theory".     It is because of this crisis of theory that fundamental change to the status quo is unthinkable. No one can imagine it, picture it, visualize it, or explain it in terms that are remotely realistic--in terms that take into account the specific features of modern, economically developed societies. This is why such an alternative is unthinkable. It is impossible to think about.     (January 2003)

Tuesday • 1-May-2007 • 8:25 pm • # 12553 • 39-56A-OW [org] poll response: ••• Communism is • not sure ••• socialism exists (or existed) in • China, Cuba

Tuesday • 1-May-2007 • 7:27 am • # 12552 • 87-26Q-UG [com] poll response: ••• Communism is • the inevitable peaceful and abundant future of humankind ••• The Soviet Union was • an oppressive, exploitative, class-divided society that pretended to be socialist or communist ••• socialism exists (or existed) in • not sure ••• Genuine socialism is • the rule of society by the working class ••• modern capitalist societies are ruled by • the rich (ie: the wealthy class, the bourgeoisie)

Which way forward for the development of a powerful anti-war movement? The decisive step forward for the anti-war movement is to develop in depth so that it can give tens and hundreds of thousands a clear understanding of the class nature of our society and the need to end the rule of the bourgeoisie. • Hit them where it hurts • How to move the Democrats to the left • The need for revolutionary organizations that are deserving of the respect of the masses.   (March 2003)

Tuesday • 1-May-2007 • 2:04 am • # 12551 • 57-8Z-OD [org] David • Moselle, USA • 17 • student • poll response: ••• Communism is • the inevitable peaceful and abundant future of humankind ••• The Soviet Union was • an oppressive, exploitative, class-divided society that pretended to be socialist or communist ••• socialism exists (or existed) in • not sure ••• Genuine socialism is • the rule of society by the working class ••• modern capitalist societies are ruled by • the rich (ie: the wealthy class, the bourgeoisie) ••• The FAQ • I have read the FAQ